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Source: https://t.me/pravdaGerashchenko_en/29009

Russian propagandist Solovyov:

"We will not stop at Kyiv, Warsaw, Paris. We will stop when we feel secure."

What is security for Russia? The destruction of NATO?

Russia has been living in "counteraction and struggle" with external "bad enemies" for a very long time. This is how the Russian government consolidates society and explains all the problems to it.

Therefore Solovyov is right - they will not stop.

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[–] koolkiwi 94 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean of course they won't stop at Kyiv. They can't reach it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Oh that's one hell of a one-liner, I like it!

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's a wild thought, maybe the best security comes from being a good neighbor and cooperating with people around you.

[–] ChicoSuave 24 points 1 year ago

Russians can't trust. They grow up in a culture where corruption is common and lies more prevalent than reality. The only way a Russian can ever trust a thing is to do it themselves. The only other option is to remove anyone else who can do it better and then claim the advance as a Russian victory.

Russia can't be trusted by anyone anymore. Russians will be out for themselves, as they always are.

[–] khannie 5 points 1 year ago

Ireland here. Can confirm.

[–] cabron_offsets 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lol. Blyats can’t take Ukraine and NATO hasn’t done more than supply weapons and intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and not even the best boom-booms, either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

In your opinion what are the best boom-booms of NATO, short of nuclear devices?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AGM-158 JASSM's with CHAMP packages. Stealth cruise missiles with anti-electronics packages. Would bring down the bloodshed significantly while disabling enemy communications, launchers, radar installations, etc. These can be fired by F-16s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-electronics_High_Power_Microwave_Advanced_Missile_Project

The CHAMP is superior to other electronic warfare weapons because it destroys electronics, rather than jamming which temporarily affects systems that come back online when it stops being applied....
CHAMP is capable of up to 100 shots per sortie.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Known or suspected/hypothetical?

You gotta imagine the US has at least one or two publicly unknown weapon types socked away for a rainy day. At the outside, perhaps something crazy in the vein of Rods from God.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the u.s. does not export 'everything' (even when excluding nuclear devices) in its arsenal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You know that’s right.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa 9 points 1 year ago

A single raptor would turn the whole russ*an air force into scrap metal. Like a quarter of the globes airspace would be enforced by that lmao

[–] AngryCommieKender 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] NotMyOldRedditName 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I suspect NATO would be able to deploy localized laser based anti drone weapons.

Maybe show-off their experimental ship based rail guns?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Metal Gear?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Any fellow old folks remember the Iraqi Information Minister and related memes? Sounds like he's been giving this Russian guy lessons....

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/comical-ali-baghdad-bob

[–] cabron_offsets 12 points 1 year ago

Baghdad Blyat

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If the west needs any more encouragement to assist Ukraine, here it is.

The choice is help Ukraine now, or kick the can down the road and lament when Russia is at your borders.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

The choice is help Ukraine now, or kick the can down the road and lament when Russia is at your borders.

That might seem scarier if they weren't nearly 2 years into their 3 day war against their smaller, poorer next-door neighbour.

Russia is a terrorist shithole state that needs to be dismantled. I wish my country was doing more than providing arms and training.

[–] Bwaz 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because Russia is being invaded so often.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Historically, their brand of propaganda is rooted in almost millennia-long trauma the Russian people have suffered since Genghis Khan took over Russia back in the 1200's, and other assholes have tried to invade them before.

Their way of dealing with it was to expand to have large swaths of land between them and anyone who'd try again. It's why Russia is the largest country in the world by land area but only small parts of that land are actually developed.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

small parts of that land are actually developed.

To a mid-century standard at best, let's be fair.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

True. Still, history is history. I wish there was a way to heal the trauma of the Russian people so they stop submitting to dictators and acting like this.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Piecemakers3Dprints 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mid-20th century is what "mid-century" has come to mean in modern parlance.

[–] CitizenKong 29 points 1 year ago

It's Nazi Germany all over again. Once you declared "total war" there is no way to escalate further and also no way to back down again.

[–] CobblerScholar 27 points 1 year ago

Then just die of fright you absolutely cowards, if you think that defending hospitals, schools and civilian apartment buildings is a threat to Russia then just die. If you think a free and honest press is a threat to your government then just die because no sane person will look at your actions and let you continue unabated

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Wish a bitch would try...we could finally end this war.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this a declaration of war? Against NATO??

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty much sounds like a declaration of war against Poland and France, and thus NATO to me.

[–] Madison420 2 points 1 year ago
[–] iforgotmyinstance 16 points 1 year ago

You have to have leverage to negotiate. Is losing 500k standing troops a leverage position?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago
[–] Buffalox 14 points 1 year ago

Only Russian aggression has made Russia insecure. Because now their borders are disputed.
Russia could have been perfectly secure, by just being a decent neighbor, and not invade other countries.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Maybe just concentrate on not losing the current war lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Россия delenda est

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

@LaFinlandia
Says the most insecure, paranoid country in the world.

[–] RedditReject 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

A new movie to watch, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There was some interesting, supposedly intelligence chatter during the Crimea invasion, that russia was willing to go as far as nuke warsaw to hold their claims. There was discussion that in the cold war in the 1950’s, russia was a victor, and responding from a position of strength - but the men ruling today come from a collapsed country and feel the need to do whatever it takes to feel respected.

[–] cosmicrookie 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia becoming North Korea

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ah yes famously expanding North Korea.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We must fight wokeness on the beaches, the waterfronts and elsewhere. We shall never surrender.