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[–] RaoulDook 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because Hollywood ran out of ideas 20 years ago, and comic books are a goldmine of cool stories that they can rehash into profitable action movies.

So those are the big money movies, where actors go to work for big money.

[–] themeatbridge 30 points 1 year ago

Hollywood could build an entire city out of unused scripts. The problem is not a lack of ideas, it's a lack of tolerance for risk. If you could invest $100 of your own money in a movie, where would you put it? Sequels, action flicks, comic book movies, they have a built-in audience. New stories have to compete with known IPs, and awards don't mean financial success.

[–] AllonzeeLV 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are plenty of ideas. The problem is the people running the studios have no interest in the art of filmmaking.

Like every other American economic sector, Hollywood has been taken over by private shareholder proxies demanding studios maximize short term profit formulas literally at the expense of the point of the industry. This means making established IPs over bold, original, innovative aka "risky" scripts.

Thank late stage capitalism for the decline of movies, games, medicine, education, etc. Thank sanctioned insatiable greed as a virtue in the US.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comics are full of cool stories, but Marvel just rehashes the same formula for each movie now.

I was hoping for a revamp post Endgame, but for the most part it’s essentially just the same generic movie each time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hollywood scriptwriting follows a very strict set of rules now. It's not just marvel, most big budget movies are carbon copies of the same pattern of up and down beats.

[–] not_that_guy05 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this the normal thing? 80s was Rambo like, martial arts non-stop action. 90s was more family like movies with comedy. 70s was cowboys and so on.

Just want to say, please American movie makers stop fuckin with anime. You guys suck at making them.

Look at what you did to my beautiful DBZ and Avatar the last air bender.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You guys suck at making them.

SOOO bad... they're fucking clueless.

[–] Rhoeri 11 points 1 year ago

Totally agree. Superhero movies are bottom-of-the-barrel. They’re a perfect example of how popular ≠ good. And because of them, we have very few quality films being released.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Some people will think that the pinnacle of their career is when they make the most money.
In the arts, that's often when they felt most creatively fulfilled.
There's been some seriously good actors in the MCU, but do you really think Angela Bassett, Natalie Portman or Christian Bale view their MCU roles as the height of their career?
Those roles were paychecks. That's ok, but don't go around pretending they were something else.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Tell me one other thing Christopher Reeves did . This is not new

[–] AllonzeeLV 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tell me one other thing Christopher Reeves did.

Ooh I know this! He severed his spine horseback riding!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely not the Pinnacle of his career

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But, on the bright side, it was the day he found his lifelong opposite and rival, Christopher Walken.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My humor tends to run dark, but that was a bit much for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Isn't he the nemesis of Adam Driver?

[–] ZhaoYadang 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

But did you have to Google it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Saturday night live.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] reddig33 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am confused as to how the same actors end up playing multiple superheroes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Back in the 1970s, you could make a movie for the cost of a large house. A studio could finance a lot of movies and take risks. Now $100 million for a movie is the norm. You want to take as few risks as possible. That means using popular actors over and over.

[–] FlexibleToast 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just hope it doesn't mean AI actors in the near future. We could potentially be the last generation to see new actors to reach super star status.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Movies didn't kill live theater, and records didn't kill live concerts/cabarets. For all we know, AI might spark a backlash and a return to movies with more 'practical' special effects and less CGI. On the other hand, they used AI to bring John Lennon back from the dead, so we might see a bunch of movies with John Wayne and Marilyn Monroe.

[–] Hotdogman 4 points 1 year ago

Money, that's why.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because they are consistently popular fun movies and the best paid. Imagine that, popular media being the most successful.