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Opinion | Smiths Station mayor's suicide should serve as a lesson for all of us (www.alreporter.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/politics

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We have fostered an environment in which a man who has apparently committed no crimes nor harmed anyone is shamed into ending his life.

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[–] JustZ 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"We have fostered"?

Not we, Republicans, including Copeland. Dude was a coward and hypocrite. He may have been many other things including loving husband and father.

You cannot work for a colation of people who make queer people feel safer being in the closet and then get all shocked when your coalition outs you.

I don't think he should have been outed for being queer. I think he should have been outed for being queer, while most hypocritically supporting anti-queer policy and rhetoric. Dude didn't need to go into politics. Didnt need to be a Republican.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

We

Okay this author can fuck right off with this 'we' garbage. Republicans did this. If you're too chicken shit to be specific with your pontificating then you're just a worthless pearl clutching asshole.

Edit: lol at these morons assuming I must be unaware that ALreporter is an Alabama news source and that it somehow should serve to invalidate anything I've said. This editorial is garbage. It's not the fault of Alabamians, it's the fault of Alabama Republicans and by extension the national party. Anything short of assigning blame where it belongs, squarely at the feet of the Republican party, is a blatant lie and a transparent attempt to spread blame onto those who bear no responsibility for this tragedy whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s an Alabama focused news site. The we can apply to either Alabamans, media outlets, or both. So that’s the we, and likely one you’re not a part of.

If you are in that we, it sucks, but if you’re going to be part of a whole with your neighbors, you’re going to have to own the consequences of their ideas sometimes. Maintaining a separation from them might make you feel morally superior, but it’s not going to do anything to negate those consequences or prevent future ones.

Separating is a powerful act, but it should be a rare one.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wow, this article sucks. Trying reeeal hard to blame people for investigating, and not for being bigots in the first place. Also conveniently ignoring this guy's public stance on those same bigots.

[–] macarthur_park 19 points 1 year ago

I didn’t read it that way. The op ed spends most of the text criticizing christian, anti-LGBTQ legislation. He blames the bigots.

”… instead of heaping buckets of condemnation on a man for a victimless alternate lifestyle that you happen to find icky. But, boy, we’re good at that around here, aren’t we?”

“From trying to remove LGBTQ+ books from libraries to essentially banning transgender kids from existence to forcing children to have children, the state of Alabama, under conservative rule, has cornered the market on religious governance.”

”Yet, we continue to push these distorted Christian beliefs as actual policy and law. And in the process, we have fostered an environment in which a man who has apparently committed no crimes or harmed anyone is shamed into ending his own life.”

”There is no telling how many Bubba Copelands there are out there – kids and adults who have been crushed by the hateful, ill-informed, religious-based environment fostered by this sort of ignorance and intolerance. People who have been used as pawns by politicians to spread ignorance and fear.”

There’s a lot more in the article, but I don’t want to quote too much and run afoul of site rules.

[–] Kbobabob 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought i read that he didn't really have a public stance other than just an "R".

[–] ChicoSuave 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not pick D and be welcomed? Why side with the people who clearly hate him enough to pressure him to die.

[–] AbidanYre 12 points 1 year ago

Because Alabama isn't going to elect a Democrat.

[–] alquicksilver 6 points 1 year ago

It's an opinion piece, not a news article. They're usually something like this.

[–] cabron_offsets 28 points 1 year ago

Fuck outta here. The republicunts own this.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

The lesson should be that these Christian nationalists are coming for everyone. You don't get a pass for being a "good one" if you deviate from their standards.

Their sexual standards are everything except sex between married couples for procreation is wrong. The sodomy laws included making oral sex between heterosexually married couples illegal. They aren't just coming for trans people they are coming for them first. The rest of us are coming next.

[–] PP_BOY_ 14 points 1 year ago

If you need a "lesson" to not call real children sluts or whores and write stories about those children being given forced gender surgery and sold into sex slavery on public accounts with your face attached, you should probably kill yourself too

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol, nope, Republicans fuck off, we're intolerant to intolerance in this household

Poor poor racist Republican, joined the Republican party to hold down women, and minorities, didn't wanna get into the whole "the leopards that eat faces party, that i glad fully joined and represented. might eat my face, should they find out i like wearing women's clothing, here, let me just defund another domestic violence shelter, nope, i'll be just fine"

All Republicans are hypocritical bigots, by definition. It's the core of their political party, it's who they signed up to be identified with, it's who they are, or in the case of this poor bigoted fuck, were. I don't want to see any "but this was a nice republican" bullshit. After the Southern Strategy in 1964, all Republicans are trash, every single one.

Institutionalized racism, misogyny, homophobia, and white Christian separatism as party platform. No matter how "conservative" Republicans claimed to be, The Southern Strategy was the core value and singular driving force for the past 60 years.

MAGA isn't a symptom, it's result.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Agree with the thoughts on Republican party in generally. But let's be sure that it's morally wrong to out people, even if they have betrayed the social contract on tolerance.

we're intolerant to intolerance in this household

That means you don't tolerate people's intolerance. It doesn't mean you go scorched earth and use their own hateful tactics against them.

In this case, it was his own party and/or "side" that outed him. But it was still wrong regardless of who did it and no one should encourage that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm pretty done with the suggestion of suicide across the board.

Fucking stay with us; witness this shit; and help us fix this mess.

[–] Chainweasel 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of us?.