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What happened to Airbnb?::Financially, the Airbnb is thriving, but guests, hosts, and cities have had enough.

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[–] Raiderkev 118 points 10 months ago (15 children)

I can't afford a house in my hometown in part because cunts buy houses to be airbnbs. Fuck them. I will always book a hotel unless there's literally no other option. I don't want to give my money to grifters who are ruining the housing market. I also ratted my mom's neighbor out to the city for running one out of his house. He timed the market and bought after '08 when he was working for a small social network startup. Now he doesn't even live in that house anymore and instead of selling, uses it as an airbnb. He is an exec at what is now a very large social media company. He absolutely does not need the money, but keeps the house as an asset and rents it on airbnb. I didn't win the birth year lottery and get a chance to buy the dip. Instead I came of age with an all time high housing market that has only gone up. Then rates went up because fuck u specifically Raiderkev. Fuck air BNB. Report every last one to the city. They are likely in violation of some ordinance. People need to vote with their wallets and drive these grifters to sell and not let it be profitable for them.

[–] grayman 29 points 10 months ago

So there's this company that's been buying up about 30% of houses in many cities to turn them into rentals. They outbid everyone. That's a bigger issue than the few air bnb.

[–] curiousPJ 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I lived in one of 'those homes' once... All 5 bedrooms and the garage which I stayed in was at least 1000 a month. And it was bare minimum amenities. One refrigerator shared with everyone, stove top was broken the entire time, one restroom and shower, and half of the folks had no idea how to clean dishes.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They were never going to be big without breaking hotel regulations. It makes no sense why they're big anyway. They don't own any real estate. They should take 5% at most, like a payment processor.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (16 children)

It's chokepoint capitalism, where you don't supply, produce or consume, you just control the conduit through which people do those things.

Also though just owning property shouldn't entitle you to an income. Fuck landlords in general, it's just airbnb figured out a way to be even more exploitative.

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[–] fart_pickle 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What happened to Airbnb?

Good old corporate greed fueled by an unreasonable shareholders/investors expectations.

[–] Buddahriffic 10 points 10 months ago

Also every single provider on airbnb is also an investor potentially looking to maximize their money. I say potentially because not all landlords are min/maxing entitled assholes.

[–] ohlaph 36 points 10 months ago

When I'm on vacation, I don't want to make time for chores. Airbnb wants to charge me a fee for cleaning and have me clean up.

And the horror stories of cameras, and stupid rules. No thanks. I'll pay less at a motel and have breakfast included.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Enshitty-vacation if we're talking AirBnB.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Damn, you nailed it haha. Wish I'd thought of that one :)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

Air BnB has destroyed the property market in my town. I'd rather not travel than contribute to the problem.

[–] AcornCarnage 11 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I do still look for Airbnbs every time we travel because we're a family of 5. Not a lot of hotels will accommodate 5 to a room and separate rooms means twice the price. Airbnb offers a lot more options for a family with the added benefits of a full kitchen and having a place that can actually be a short term home rather than a room with a bed.

Here's the last one we rented: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/794199620391731129

I get that Airbnbs take some homes off the market and in some areas (like mine), that sucks because demand is high and supply is low. But they aren't going to be the reason for a housing crunch. Here in Portland, Maine, we're a small city on the ocean, thrive on tourists, have great restaurants, and are an easy drive to Boston or to ski resorts or Acadia. The housing market has been bonkers for YEARS and it isn't going to change if we ban short term rentals.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

False dichotomy. You can rent a villa, summer home, or any other non hotel accommodation outside of Airbnb. We used Booking.com for our last holiday, and the same place we rented was listed on Airbnb but more expensive by about a quarter of the price.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Many of these places list on more than one site, the business is the same, the effects are the same

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[–] surewhynotlem 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do hotels not provide an extra cot anymore?

[–] grayman 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fire regulations for almost every hotel limits the room to 4. They'll give you a crib but not another bed.

[–] surewhynotlem 1 points 10 months ago

Ahhh, that sucks. I never realized just how tailored everything is to the 'nuclear family'

[–] AcornCarnage 2 points 10 months ago

There are places where we can all squeeze into a room, and we do. It all depends on the trip and what we're looking to get out of it. We don't mind sharing beds and putting someone on a sofa, but it's harder as the kids are all getting into teen years.

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[–] JeeBaiChow 6 points 10 months ago

Buy a new condo and suddenly a bunch of weirdos turn up on weekends. It's worse, because only managed properties can afford he units these days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I'd rather stay at a motel with full cleaning and amenities than some bozo's house anyday. At a motel I can just focus on why I'm staying instead of how.

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