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Immigration targets have risen steadily in recent years. Last year, the government released a plan to grant permanent residency to 465,000 people in 2023, a figure that would rise to 500,000 by 2025.

The immigration target for 2015 was under 300,000.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

How many houses and apartments are built in Canada each year? How does this immigration rate balance with the population decline that would otherwise be happening?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The natural increase rate in Canada is 0.1%, or around 40K people per year (source). As for housing 260K houses started construction in 2022 (source). With an average household size of 2.5 that means that new housing is roughly keeping up with new demand. Of course just because a home is built does not mean it is affordable, and just keeping up doesn't fix the already existing lack of housing. There are goals to increase housing production to 400K a year but there isn't really the construction workers to pull that off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That also doesn't take into account the number of homes which deteriorate to being no longer livable each year or the ones demolished to create more housing.

We may be adding 260K houses but it's possible that 20k were demolished to make room for those.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's definitely a thing not being accounted for. Best I got is this. It only tracks demos from places with over 50K people and it also includes comercial->residential and residential->commercial re-purposing. If my quick math is right The grand total of all the data they have is only 2K so I don't think it makes a huge difference.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Consider as well the changing demographic and how we will maintain a system of consolidated services to best care for our elders.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can get that by looking at the total population over time.

[–] ikidd 12 points 1 year ago

That seems like a crazy amount of people to add to the employment and housing situations.

[–] spyd4r 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact dollarama has 2000 people show up to interview for 2 openings tells me this isn't sustainable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this true? The unemployment numbers are pretty low even after the interest hikes.

[–] spyd4r 2 points 1 year ago

I've seen it 2 or 3 times myself in my own town. I can only imagine it's everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Uh oh.

Are politicians going to have to start funding post secondary schools instead of extracting money from the developing world?

Will Tim's franchise owners need to pay a reasonable wage?

What about fish plants and meat packers? Will they need to consider automation?

And what about the landlords renting to foreign students at inflated rates?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My complaint isn't about immigration, but that we're not using our immigration policy to attract top talent.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Top talent won't toast your Tim Horton's bagel.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Neither will Tim's at this point

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


After making a number of increases to its immigration targets in recent years, the federal government announced Wednesday that it's aiming to maintain its target of welcoming 500,000 new permanent residents in 2026.

Immigration targets have risen steadily in recent years.

Last year, the government released a plan to grant permanent residency to 465,000 people in 2023, a figure that would rise to 500,000 by 2025.

The immigration target for 2015 was under 300,000.

Canada's population grew by a record 1 million people in 2022.

The country also surpassed the 40 million people mark earlier this year.


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