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[–] gibmiser 93 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Youtube react videos had humble origins

[–] datelmd5sum 52 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Guy in the far right is absolutely fascinated. "So that's how they did it in Dachau!"

[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I mean, if you get down to it, everyone in the picture was in the far right...

[–] datelmd5sum 26 points 11 months ago

Usually they don't ask about your political views at the conscription / draft office. Like, they didn't go "oh you voted for Humphrey? Well no Vietnam for you then son! Enjoy staying safe at home!"

[–] zepheriths 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If this is the end of the war there are probably some end of war draftees. I can't speak for them. But generally speaking the enlisted soilder had not clue about the concentration camps

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Most would've known about the concentration camps, if not the details of the conditions. Only the extermination camps were kept reasonably secret.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Oh hey dad, you’re back! Didn’t know it took 20 years to walk to the corner store and back.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

~~Who is being shown the footage? German prisoners of war?~~

Germans held as prisoners. Not people being held by Germans. Got it

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

...that's what the title says, yes?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

OH yeah ok I thought "German pow" was a prisoner being held by Germans. Not a German being held as prisoner by others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I miss read it initially too, and I already knew what the image was going to be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is what "POWs" is short for, yes.

[–] Rednax 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It requires context to determine whether "German" refers to the captor or the prisoner here. After all: if Germany captures a POW, it is their prisoner. Hence, it is a German POW.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Technically I can't say you are absolutely wrong, but since you argued with "context" you must either not be aware of this pretty famous depiction of those German POWs. must have ignored what the picture clearly shows, ignored it or something entirely different I honestly can't fathom.

I just wanted to explain to the person asking what a POW is or to be more precise what the abbreviation stands for. It is legit to ask if you don't know something.

I have not the slightest clue what you even hoped to get across with your reply, I am sorry. Obviously. without any context whatsoever. your point would be a 100% valid. But there is alll the context right in front your eyes. I hope you not just trolling and this was all just a misunderstanding.

Regardless, hope you have a great day.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Denazifizierung war zu der Zeit (nach dem Krieg oder in befreiten Gebieten) nicht mehr als Propaganda. Später haben sowohl BRD als auch DDR bereitwillig nationalsozialistische 'Fachkräfte' eingestellt oder beibehalten, Aufarbeitung sabotiert oder nicht verfolgt. Die 'Wehrmacht' hätte ja angeblich eine weiße Weste gehabt und in der 'SS' war angeblich niemand. Rechte Vereine wurden gegründet, die teilweise noch heute existieren oder erst vor Kurzem verboten wurden. Rechte Parteien sind mit Gründung in die Parlamente gezogen. Antisemitische Positionen blieben Grundkanon, rassistische, sexistische, klassistische Positionen weiteten sich noch aus und wurden in Gesetz, Kultur und Infrastruktur zementiert.

[–] Pharmacokinetics 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You see, Hans, if we act surprised, maybe they won't hang us for thinking we are insane.

Claus, we are in the Eastern front POW camp. We are all gonna die.

[–] FringeTheory999 -1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

they don’t care. they’re just trying to hide their faces from the photographer. people always take this photo as an indication of shock or remorse, but in reality, they don’t want their pictures taken. That’s it., i’m sure.

[–] PugJesus 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think their concern was their faces being seen. Cancel culture wasn't exactly a thing at the time. It was widely known in the German population that the Jewish population was being deported to prison camps, but the details of extermination were not necessarily well-known, or believed. These men are being confronted with the reality of what they fought for.

[–] 13esq 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] kromem 10 points 11 months ago

The mayor of one of the neighboring towns to a camp hung himself after the forced tour of it post-liberation.

It's one thing to ignore authoritarians going after a minority group and turn a blind eye, especially when speaking up or opposing those authoritarians can get you killed.

But it's entirely a different thing to be directly confronted with the suffering you'd turned a blind eye to.

Just as we saw with the Milgram experiment that obedience to authority was not a 'German' thing but a 'human' thing, I wouldn't be so quick to 'other-ize' the flip side of the empathy of the POWs pictured here.

[–] gmtom 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah there's even a guy flipping the V to the camera

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Looks like he's resting his head on two spread fingers. You can see the dimple where it's pressing into his cheek.

I mean, maybe it's a V sign, but I rest my head on two fingers like that when watching a presentation, so I'm inclined to interpret it as such.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Oh my goodness, some of you guys hang on to any straw they can find. Amazing to see.