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[–] [email protected] 118 points 11 months ago (35 children)

Economic inequality being one of the biggest drivers of democratic back sliding. Shitty part is that authoritarian doesn’t really offer anything better.

The wealthiest people of this world have created a world that’s tearing itself apart. And their only hedge is the thought that we will all be too busy killing each other that we forget completely about them. Hence these megalomaniacs that appear as distraction to keep us fighting each other.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Guillotine has entered the chat

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Guillotine, the one thing the rich fear.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You'd almost think they don't with the way they've been carrying on lately

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's been awhile since they last saw it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should bring it back, just saying.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It will take years for some counties to figure this out and then suddenly, there is a run for Italian made piano string. In other despot run counties, Christmas Eve will be seen as somewhat of a bummer to a defiant couple staring down the barrel of a gun.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago

It's no surprise the ratcheting rightward of global politics is coinciding with increased war and violent conflict, they fuel each other. Peace is bad for the fascist so I'd be very wary if I was Argentine.

[–] xc2215x 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Worldwide I am seeing more of these leaders now.

[–] Siegfried 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what's happening in the rest of the world, but here there is a big problem of representation. The higher politics discuss things that have nothing to do with the problems of the Argentines. We were for ages a middle class country, now more than 40% of our population is living in poverty.. and most of them dont have a job cause if they get one, they could lose their universal income*.. things are bad, and we all know that it could (and will) be much worse.

This dude, milei, started talking about simple solutions to problems that the higher politics refused to abord for decades and the gross of the population most likely took the bait. Now the whole arc, and I mean, far left to far right is quoting his proposals as their own.... and the people isn't stupid**.

The political arc tried to stop milei first by not accepting his growing electoral base, then by saying that he can't do shit without a majority on both chambers and finally by citing things that make absolutely no sense for the population: schoolshootings, an organ market, taking down the public Healthcare and education systems, bring back the junta... it simply doesn'tmake sense and if it does, people just dont care. So at the end, they only made things worse.

A month ago, a social worker told me an anecdote: he asked a villero (lower end of society) who was he voting for, the villero answer "milei", so he told him that with milei, he won't eat. The villero responded: "I don't eat now, but with milei, you won't eat too."

There is a big chunk of the population that wants to see the country burn in the most literal sense of that phrase... and if milei wins, we will most likely be on that path.

We are fucked up.

*it is universal only if you vote for the ruling party and don't have a formal job

**the people is stupid

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It's the same thing as trump in the US, they just say things angry people want to hear, and they get elected and end up being the selfserving lying pieces of shit they always were. The difference in Argentina is all the choices are lying pieces of shit. Yeah Milei sucks but so does Kirchner and Fernandez.

[–] havokdj 21 points 11 months ago (5 children)

"Legalize sale of human organs"

Oh boy, I definitely don't see where that could go wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Argentina is pretty much the capitol of the world when it comes to creating zero day software exploits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is a fun, hoverer sightly depressing, fact!

Why is that, and how come they're so good at it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Exactly how it came about I'm not sure, I heard it in a Darknet Diaries episode, which probably covers some of the detail. There are conferences where people sell zero day exploits to governments or whoever.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A foul-mouthed, far-right populist who has been described as a cross between Boris Johnson and the killer doll Chucky is in pole position to become president of South America’s second-largest economy as Argentina chooses its next leader on Sunday against a backdrop of anti-establishment fury and economic disarray.

Election-eve polls suggest Javier Milei, a charismatic and wild-haired political outsider who found fame pontificating on television chat shows about monetary policy and sex, could sneak a first-round win, although a November runoff is likely.

At his final campaign event in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, the 53-year-old “anarcho-capitalist” addressed a packed 15,000-capacity stadium from a stage adorned with a banner proclaiming him “The Only Solution” to Argentina’s economic malaise.

In suburban Buenos Aires, Milei’s Peronist rival, the finance minister Sergio Massa, asked factory workers for support despite the slump his government has overseen, with 40% of Argentina’s 47 million citizens living in poverty amid triple-digit inflation.

The third main contender, the conservative former security minister Patricia Bullrich, denounced Milei’s “bad and dangerous” ideas, which include abolishing the central bank, loosening gun laws and even legalizing the sale of human organs.

The prospect of an Argentinian amalgam of Bolsonaro and Trump taking power has horrified progressive voters and also, apparently, Pope Francis, whom Milei has bad-mouthed as a “lefty son of a bitch”.


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[–] nucawysi 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

argentina has been a corrupt country for a long long time

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[–] amenotef 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Argentina has above 100% annual inflation at the moment, right?

[–] aliteral 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes. And going far right will not change that.

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[–] Ddhuud 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But the next guy that still has any chance running against him is literally the current Economy Minister.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

This guy looks like Argentinian Ebenezer Scrooge. Libertarian humbug!

[–] ThunderWhiskers 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I know it's a stupid superficial thing, but wtf is going on with this guy's hair?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's trying ri evoke the image of argentinean "founding fathers" there's a lot of memes of him with old school military uniforms. Argentina was some time ago one of the most economically important countries on the world and with that memes and that image they are trying to connect him with that history.

[–] ThunderWhiskers 2 points 11 months ago

Of course he is.

[–] TheJims 7 points 11 months ago

He auditioning to be an Austin Powers movie villain.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] RizzRustbolt 4 points 11 months ago

It's Zardoz.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I know an old man who is a trump supporter, conspiracy theorists, flat earther, reptilian Illuminati believer.

Even he agrees that Miley is a nutjob unfit for being president.

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