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FF Origin? Lies of P is still full price, Lords of Fallen has some bad reviews, Remnant 2 was good but badly optimised so I can't run it.

Opening up Morrowind to try to replace Starfield or DOS 1 to replace Baldur's Gate 3

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[–] Zoboomafoo 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'd keep an eye on Jedi: Fallen Order, it's a bit Souls-like and a bit Uncharted-like.

It was going on sale for as low as $5 in the run up to the sequel, so it's worth keeping an eye on

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Try The Surge 1 and 2, they're definitely my favourite non-fromsoft soulslikes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Took me some getting used to, and the combat feels more clunky than souls.

Surge 1 was the first game I ever refunded on steam because I hated it so much. Gave it another go a few years later and ended up enjoying it though.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hated surge 1 too. What made you turn around?

I think surge 2 is fine though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Just leaned into the clunkiness of the combat.

First time I tried to make a fast build to compensate, but that didn’t help and just made it so I did no damage.

Second time I went for a regular build and just accepted it was slower paced than dark souls.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Lies of P is the only game that really matched up to souls games, but Nioh came pretty close. The Nioh complete edition was free on Epic games a while ago, so check if you ever redeemed it. If you don't own it, it goes on sale for really cheap nowadays.

Nioh 2 is pretty good as well but it's very much more of the same. I didn't get that far in it to tell you which is better.

Avoid Mortal Shell, I thought it wasn't very good.

Salt and Sanctuary is actually really good despite looking kind of mediocre. Expect to get lost a lot, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I tried to get into Mortal Shell twice now and both times I've ran away screaming. I hear great things about it, but I find the character feel so cumbersome from the outset that I just give up after an hour or two.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It just plays different. Once you get a bit further than an hour or 4 in, it clicks. Frustrating at first as the difficulty has a technique ramp and some rather hard seeming enemies.

Hellpoint is also a lot of fun.

Lords of the fallen is good, though some of the bosses and ranged enemies are annoying. Need a powerful machine due to the optimization and bugs, daily patches for most of the week.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I'm probably going to play Lords when it's cheaper. I've just finished Lies of P and I'm working my way through Dark Souls Remastered, and with Spider-Man and that new Mario game, I'm officially maxed out with regards to game time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Some others that I've played that are kind of similar in some way in case you want to branch out:

  • Ys Origin - older game, but has a "hard Zelda" feel that reminds me of Dark Souls (almost no emphasis on leveling/skills, more on boss fights and gear progression like older Zelda games); if you like it, check out Cross Code or other Ys games (I've played 1&2, Celceta, and Felghana)
  • Furi - boss rush
  • Titan Souls - boss rush where you and the boss have 1HP
  • Blasphemous - Metroidvania that has a similar dark fantasy setting as Dark Souls
[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The Order: 1886

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

Demon Souls

Dark Souls 1-3

Bloodborne

Nioh

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Looking for a Soulslike? How about Dark Souls 1

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I heard it was pretty soulslike!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Man, I love Sekiro so much. Such a kickass game. I hope they make more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That DLC is coming any day now...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It might be my favorite game ever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nioh2 is much better than nioh1 in my opinion, though it's newer. I think it was just on sale for like $30

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I want to enjoy those games so bad, but I always get so bogged down by the constant new equipment. I find myself spending 50% of the time comparing new equipment to what I already have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

What I do is dismantle everything that's not the highest gear quality. You can do that in the menu without looking at any individual items. Then disassemble weapons that aren't the type I'm using. Also doable without looking at any specific items.

Then I do a quick scan of new armor and throw out anything that's the wrong weight class. You can't do that automatically but it's pretty quick.

That makes the equipment game much faster. You'll be left with a handful of things to compare. And frankly I sometimes just skim through what's left for any unusual mods and then move on.

I also was overwhelmed at first but I realized a lot of it isn't important.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Just a heads up, I wouldn't consider FF Origin a souls like. It's more of just a typical action game (though a fun one)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Mortal Shell was pretty good and can be had for less than $5 pretty frequently. It's not as long as a lot of other Soulslikes but has some interesting mechanics.

Ashen as well gets a recommendation!

[–] javasux 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I strongly second Mortal Shell, I really love its gameplay and art direction

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really intensely disliked mortal shell. I can tell it's a love letter to dark souls - all the styling is trying very hard - but the gameplay just pisses me off. Especially that first probably-optional boss that you have to parry like 30 times to beat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It's always interesting to me talking about this game too Souls fans. I have never really found enjoyment in any of the Dark Souls games but, I've dropped probably a couple thousand hours at this point into Bloodborne and I have a feeling that may be why Mortal Shell clicked with me a little better than some of the other stuff like the surge or Lords of the fallen. Either way, it's fantastic that we have such a bounty of these types of games to choose from right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

The music was really good too. I still remember it a year later.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I personally didn't like it. It's very easy to get lost, there are very few checkpoints, and the gameplay is just a bit too clunky. Maybe the latter two improve later on, but it lost my attention before that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

You've probably already played it, but I found Hollow Knight to really scratch the souls itch in combat, lore, and general tone. It also has some great metroidvania gameplay

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

There's a guy on YouTube, Ironpineapple, who has a ton of videos of him playing souls likes of a variety of qualities. You might find something there you like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I've seen Elden Ring on PC for as low as £30 over the last few weeks if that takes your fancy. I'm also fairly sure it's on sale on PSN and Xbox ATM (at least in the UK).

Wo-Long maybe? It's from the folks that made Nioh and is on Gamepass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

The last hero of nostalgia looks neat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Been quite enjoying Thymesia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

+1 for Thymesia.

I really liked the way they handled the health system where you first have to hit them with a regular attack to open up wounds and then remove their health by doing a claw attack.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Previous to the souls games were the king's field games of from soft, there's an indie that came out last year (so not much of a patient gamer thing, but it's criminally cheap) called "lunacid". I was skeptic at first but it got me hooked, really fun game.

[–] OscarRobin 2 points 10 months ago

Ashen, Nioh 1 and 2, The Surge 2

[–] cod 1 points 10 months ago

If you’re still looking for more games to check out, watch Iron Pineapple on YouTube. He’s got a whole series dedicated to lesser known souls-likes. A lot of them are bad but there’s some good stuff in there too. He’s got great criticisms and generally tries to stay positive even with the bad games. Highly recommended

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Did you finish BG3? In-game playtime for me is 65ish hours and I'm only at the start of Act 2.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

IDK why this is being downvoted. The game's been available for purchase and play for 3 years already