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8Bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth. I use it with the included dongle and it works just fine on my distro (Nobara). Kubuntu should also be fine I guess, just make sure you're on a recent kernel (6.3+)
The main reason why I'd recommend this over others is that it has built-in macros - which is really handy for some games where you may need to press a complicated button sequence (like in fighting games), and of course, it also has the classic "turbo" feature which is handy for platformers.
The other reason is that the controller also works great with the Nintendo Switch as well as Android, so if you ever decide to game on these platforms you can reuse the same controller.
Edit: I just remembered that when I first got mine, I needed to update the firmware to get it to work correctly. You'll need to update the firmware on both the receiver (v1.03) and the controller (v1.05). You'll need to do this one at a time (update the receiver first, disconnect it, then connect the controller directly via USB and update it). Unfortunately the firmware updater tool works only in Windows or macOS, so that's one drawback I guess. But maybe in the future it could get updated via LVFS/fwupd.
I will second this. For sure spend the extra dough on the Bluetooth version, since that one comes with HAL sticks, so it should be much more resistant to drift. Great controller, very comfortable and I dig that it has the option to use a dedicated dongle.
Came here to say this. IMO, the 8bitdo controllers are the best out there.
I second any of 8bits controllers. I have the pro 2 myself, works perfectly when I use Linux.
Agreed. The ultimate is great, and the charging dock is super convenient
Likewise I use an 8Bitdo Pro 2. Works great for me on Linux, Android, and Switch. Even has gyro support on Switch.
Canโt comment on Linux compatibility. But on my windows PC I use a Gulikit King Kong 2 Pro. Really like it so far, no major issues, pretty good battery life.
Linux compatibility is flawless. +1 for this controller ๐ฎ
Can vouch for this controller, works flawlessly in Linux
Seems to work fine for me on linux over bluetooth. Its a good controller.
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I haven't had any issues with my DS4s (PS4 controllers), and I've heard good things about DS5s. I've also used XBox 360 controllers with a dongle.
You could also look for Stadia controllers in case you can find a good deal. Stadia was discontinued, but they can be updated to work like regular controllers, at least through the end of the year. I don't have any direct experience with them though.
I've used a few controllers. Generally, controllers with direct input have worked the best. My favorite controller to use is the Dual Sense controller(PS5). The Switch controller also works right out of the box. Xbox controllers seem to be hit and miss. If you do want an Xbox style controller, consider the 8bit-do ultimate controller, as it has a dinput mode. Avoid the Bluetooth variant, as the 2.4ghz mode is xinput only.
The new 8bitdo one with hall effect joysticks is very nice. Has both Bluetooth and a wireless dongle and there's a hardware switch on the back so you can switch between them on the fly (meaning you can connect two devices and easily switch between)
I use a DualSense, an 8BitDo Pro2, and a Switch Pro controller.
My favourite by far is the DualSense: motion control works (unlike the 8BitDo), and the touchpad is really useful to control the mouse cursor in menus. The buttons are also shorter and real more reactive. It's on the bigger size, which may or may not be a good thing for you. I have smaller hands, so for me it's not as comfortable as the 8BitDo, but it's definitely bearable, and I still use it over my 8BitDo Pro2.
The Switch Pro controller is a pain in some games (last time I tried, it was so bugged it was unusable with Dead Cells), and I don't see any real advantage it would have over an 8BitDo Pro2. Maybe the motion control? I don't know if it works or not, I have never tested it.
I love the switch pro, but the trigger buttons being straight up buttons is a deal breaker for some games. DualSense is goat, and target has occasionally had them on sale for $45.
Oh, yes, I forgot that. It's been a while I have touched my Switch.
If you have bluetooth on your PC you can use any Xbox controller (from Xbox One up). They are the perfect standard. Grab some rechargeable double As and the controller will last literally forever and is compatible with everything. Or a battery pack even from third party brands. I know many people complain about it using double As but its actually a great thing, double As last 20x longer than any battery and you can use rechargeable ones and don't worry about your controller dying as it ages.
The latency with Bluetooth is really bad.
I play Dirt Rally 2, I'm not seeing any issues.
If it doesn't bug you, more power to you. Maybe it's because you're playing a racing game where an input doesn't immediately hit the screen anyways. Hitting the gas takes time to accelerate, steering is about gradually modifying your lines, etc.
But it's definitely there, in both windows and Linux.
Sim racers are pretty demanding on reaction time, rally in particular, where all controls have to work instantly (including gear shift, handbrake and clutch).
Also, what else am I going to play on controller? Racing and platformers are the most demanding games for it, I'm not going to play shooters with controller. ๐
This is mostly a myth with modern controllers. Either your pc Bluetooth is very old, or you are using very old controllers. Modern bluetooth controllers connected to modern bluetooth receivers do not give any noticeable latency.
No, I am not. I have used the current Xbox controllers on both windows and Linux on multiple modern systems with Bluetooth and they're completely unusable without the dongle every single time. I've never had anyone not notice.
The latency is obscene.
Out of curiosity, are you using WiFi, and what frequency?
A little while ago I had an issue where my controller would interfere with my 2.4GHz WiFi and make my computer basically unusable for online games. This isn't really the same situation but I imagine something similar could happen in reverse.
Otherwise I've never had any issues with controller latency though. It's weird that it's so significant for you.
Multiple physical locations and network setups. It doesn't matter.
Bluetooth is substantially higher latency and lower stability than the proprietary adapter. It's fine if you can tolerate it, but the performance isn't the same.
I can't get Xbox controllers to work over Bluetooth.
You mean you have an Xbox controller that supports bt but you can't get it to work on Linux, or you have an Xbox controller and it doesn't seem to support bt?
Because they started adding bt to xbone controllers half way through their cycle, so not all of them have it. Refer to msft's picture to tell them apart.
IMO Xbox controllers are the way to go. BT works fine for me on Linux these days. Not sure if it's steam doing it or what.
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My Xbox Wireless Controller couldnโt connect with Bluetooth until after a firmware update. The update required a Windows machine and the Xbox Accessories app (VM didnโt work) or an Xbox One (360 didnโt work).
Damn how old is your controller? My series X controller worked from day one. Zero configuration needed. Nobara Linux. I use it almost everyday for hours, zero problems
I looked it up and it seems to be the 2020 version. I recently got it with a Steam Deck that I bought second hand.
I had compatible issues with an Xbox series controller via Bluetooth. Even after installing all the proprietary drivers and such.
Well I use one Series X original controller that came with my Xbox series X on my Nobara desktop almost daily. Zero issues. Maybe it depends on the distro or kernel version. I didn't have to install any drivers whatsoever
The Xbox one is good and it's the standard layout on PC, so this is probably your pick.
I love my Steam Controller since is very customizable and a pretty unique hardware, but it may require config steps.
8bitdo stuff is usually good but pay attention on layout buttons.
Never tested a PS controller on PC but Steam should allow to play some game with the PS buttons on screen.
I am using the Xbox One controller. I had to pair it with Windows once to fix a connection problem, but now it's problem-free. I'm pretty sure that the problem and solution was described on Arch Wiki but I can't find it now. Basically it was stuck on disconnecting and connecting again until Windows didn't update its firmware
Personally waiting for the leaked Xbox controller to come out.
I use my xbone controller on Garuda and it just works
8BitDo SN30 Pro works great. I'm using the Xbox edition that's meant to only work on Android with Game Pass thanks to xpadneo drivers
DS5 is probably the best you can choose. The build quality is good and they work fine with Linux via Bluetooth. Also it is not some exotic choice and is widely supported.
The Xbox controllers are also working fine, but they are lacking the gyro and touchpad. Also the build quality wasn't great when I used one the last time (A button not registering every press and wonky d-pad). They are a bit cheaper, but also much worse imo.
I like the dualsense5 controllers for the PS5. The trackpad is a handy feature to have.
You should be able to use pretty much any Bluetooth controller just try to avoid the Bluetooth low Energie LE controller my stadia controller that i resenty bought doesn't work on many distos Nobara no problem if you use arch forget it
Both the PS5 and Xbox Series X controllers are very good. I've had some incompatibilities on my computers with older bluetooth hardware though. Speaking practically, I'd recommend the Xbox one as it's slightly cheaper, takes regular replaceable batteries. Subjectively, I prefer the PS5 controller (I like the feel, and the trackpad is really handy), but I've already had to replace the lithium ion battery in mine. (Had to do the same with my older PS4 controller too)
@TxTechnician Xbox One S controllers work pretty well on Bluetooth. I can connect 4 controllers at the same time but more than 2 is not really stable. And if you don't mind some tweaking, they work better with https://atar-axis.github.io/xpadneo/.
I also used Logitech F310 without any problem. Oh, and steam controller works well too.
Three PCs two different containers. I cannot get Xbox controllers to work with Linux over Bluetooth.
@TxTechnician interesting, are you sure your controllers support BT? I've been successfully using them with both of my laptops and steam deck. The key configuration can be a problem but xpadneo solves that. I love their ergonomics.
Well, now I remember that I couldn't connect one of the latest generation controllers to one of my laptops. It needed BT LE and the laptop didn't support it. But One S controllers are fine.
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