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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I absolutely hated the latest Halloween movie because of that. Oh a rural American town has a serial killer problem? Let's go out with baseball bats and hockey sticks. Motherfucker people go out with automatic rifles when an unknown car does a U turn using their driveway.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd like to see a horror film where the the generic killer navigates a small town that's had its locals form into a militia under homegrown martial law, and the killer actually thrives in the paranoia that comes from it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Oh shit, that sounds pretty cool actually

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

There's something of a character and chapter like that in Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson. It's a good book otherwise, too.

[–] RobertOwnageJunior 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

To be fair, Michael Myers is supposed to be at least slightly inhuman. Same with Jason Vorhees or Freddy Kruger.

Ghostface is literally just a dude.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well yeah but then they should explore that. I don't want to see a couple hillbillies try to beat Myers to death using baseball bats and kitchen knives only for him to slash them all.

! what's even stupider is when they get him down and one of the main characters stabs him in the shoulder when one of the townfolks tells her to go take care of her daughter. Like it would take the same amount of time to stab him in the face.!<

I'm fine with inhuman as long as everyone else acts like they have half a brain. That's why that movie is rated like shit.

[–] Transcendant 10 points 1 year ago

This trope (the baddie is down, let's run away) has frustrated the heck out of me for as long as I can remember. If I was facing a murderous loon and I had successfully taken them down, I would be making sure they don't get back up again. That would be reasonable force against someone trying to kill you, surely.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet, The Shape would be undeterred

[–] FinalRemix 3 points 1 year ago

Shame we haven't seen The Shape in a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

automatic

I fucking wish lmao

[–] Cannibal_MoshpitV3 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure the creators of the original film almost wanted a parody of slasher films, which is why it's so over the top ridiculous at some points lmao

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I watched Scary Movie before I watched Scream and I was surprised how similar they actually are. Of course Scary Movie dials the ridiculousness up to eleven, but Scream is just as much of a parody itself.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd say Scream veers much closer to satire than parody. It's more focused on the commentary than the comedy. It does make use of comedy, but it's not solely focused on just that.

[–] Transcendant 6 points 1 year ago

I will never not laugh at the bong scene, the little echo he does haha.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Yeah that was definitely the intent

[–] CluckN 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh no he’s appeared in my home! I’ll stumble over furniture and throw 4lb items at them until cornering myself.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly that is one of my favorite parts about the Scream movies. The victims never go down without a fight and make the killer look like a clumsy goofball lol

[–] EncryptKeeper 5 points 1 year ago

With every chase sequence in that movie franchise Ghostface never eats shit less than like 3 years.

[–] Son_of_dad 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have at least a dozen items in my house that I know I'm gonna be throwing at a burglar's face in case of a break in. I've lived in first floor units all my life too so I always have a Roman gladius by the window. It's not sharp, but it's metal and it's blunt.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Metal doesn't have to be terribly sharp too pierce flesh. As a 6 year-old, I accidentally stabbed myself with a cabinet handle that was extremely blunt. It's all about the ratio of force applied over an area. The most mall ninja shit sword will still cause potentially fatal injuries, it just wouldn't be a good battlefield weapon.

[–] Son_of_dad 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe just give the burglar a flat side spanking then, go for the knees.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is it always a Roman gladius? What if the burglars are Germanic tribes ambushing you in your Teutoburg-inspired winter garden? Happens more often than not

[–] Rolando 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

O! Quinctilius Varus! Give me back my stereo!

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[–] Son_of_dad 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't really prepare for a Germanic forest ambush but I'll at least be ready if there's an outbreak of Carthagenian ships on the horizon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Many such cases.

[–] Transcendant 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah but you're not taking into account:

A) very, very scary mask

B) there's more than one of them

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Ah but they don't yet know there is more than one. You got me on the scary mask tho

[–] GrammatonCleric 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel the same way about the mainline Halloween movies. Just put the escapee down, c'mon.

[–] The_Cleanup_Batter 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, at least in Halloween it is HEAVILY implied that Mike has something supernatural going on with his durability.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"implied" doesn't he get stabbed and shot repeatedly and just walk it off?

[–] FinalRemix 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Shape gets shot and stumbles out a window in the first movie and he's gone before Loomis can check on him.

[–] The_Cleanup_Batter 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah "implied" because it's never actually explained why he survived that stuff. There's lots of hyperbole with characters saying "He's not human!" and similar, but there aren't any actual answers. It could very well be that he's just the luckiest murderer alive with basically no pain reflex.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Easily shakes off being hit by vehicles multiple times.

[–] GrammatonCleric 5 points 1 year ago

Like his ability to drive a car with that mask on 😂

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Every teenie slasher movie: "Hey we got half the football team and half the cheerleaders in a house with a killer who picks us off one by one. Let's split up!"

[–] tdawg 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A knife? Laughs in metal coat rack

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Myersbros, people are making fun of us again...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some mace would ruin that guys year. Or at least the mask would come off immediately.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some mace, or alternatively, a mace.

[–] Psaldorn 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Spray mace on the mace! That'll teach 'em!

[–] Sheeple 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

On the firearms point. Ghost Face actually wears protective equipment under the costume!

Him just being a regular human in fact is also an important point. Notably, Ghost Face is prone to clumsy human error. He trips, gets slammed in the head by a door. All of the Ghostface iterations also died after regular fatal wounding.

He's the most "real" of spooky serial killers while still maintaining a horror villain appearance, which makes him so great

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, in movie one, Rose McGowan's character actually puts up an extremely competent defense while using her environment. She has him completely on the back foot. She knocks him prone with the freezer door, hurls beer bottles at his groin and face and trips/throws him onto the steps. Her mistake was going full idiot and running back to the door that she already knows is locked, and confirms that... yep, still locked. And then she reaches 99% of the way for the garage door button but then doesn't fucking push it. Instead, after bodily flipping Ghostface, she runs to exit through the too small dog door. Then, of course, Ghostface stands up, pushes the button she should have used, and kills her.

[–] Rolando 2 points 1 year ago

Rose McGowan is a badass. I bet the competent defense was improv, but she was contractually obliged to get killed in the end.

[–] FinalRemix 1 points 1 year ago

Ghostface is also slightly supernatural with the mask on. Everyone dressed as Ghostface is 6', and pretty fuckin' strong.

[–] Damaskox 6 points 1 year ago

Basically one of the problems in horror movies.

Make people do stupid conclusions and acts for the plot's sake - so you'd have material for a whole movie's time instead of 15 minutes 😂

Fortunately some movie plots are a bit more complicated and need actual thinking and mystery-solving.

[–] PP_BOY_ 3 points 1 year ago

ITT: no one has seen the movie

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