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The Hamas attack that left Israeli-Canadian Netta Epstein dead was chronicled in his phone messages with his mother.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago

Wow, what an honourable way to go if you must. He traded unlikely survival with certain death and saved his girlfriend in the process. I feel bad for the mom, but still I don't know how many would be as brave as Netta to do that, even if you had adrenaline going.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What a bad ass. "Oh shit we're all going to die!" "ME FIRST!"

[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What a hero. He gave up almost any chance of survival to reduce shrapnel spread, which saved his girlfriend's life...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

While not diminishing the heroism, laying atop a grenade might be among the least bad ways to go during the attack. One instant you're there pumped on hero juice, the next instant you're gone. No leftover brain activity to experience who knows what while actively dying.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When it happens to you, please let us know what your reaction was and who survived.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If I found myself in such situation I'd have zero balls or awareness to jump on a nade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I'd probably grab the thing with my monkey reflexes and result in bringing it up for a better vantage point once it goes off.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Those text messages.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Good man, protecting those around him.🫑

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Senseless violence

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

PSA: Don't throw yourself on grenades. Lay flat on the ground with your legs facing the grenade.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Genuinely asking, how is that any better? And really, if you were trying to stop fragmentation from killing other people in a room wouldn't your actual core do a better job of that then your legs?

[–] SandroHc 21 points 8 months ago

Different advice for different goals. If your goal is to survive, you want your vitals to be protected. If you want others to survive, might as well use your muscle and fat to absorb some of the kinetic energy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

that then your legs

Well, not one THEN the other. It's a single blast and it's too quick to change positions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

The idea is obviously for everyone to lay flat with their legs facing the grenade, not just one person. If there's just you and one other person just force them to the ground. If you live in a dangerous place explain it to them beforehand and maybe even practice.

[–] cybersandwich 12 points 8 months ago

His goal wasnt to survive the blast, it was to protect the people around them so they could survive the blast.

Id love to a mark Rober on that. Will it actually stop fragments and enough of the shock wave or will they just go through you anyway?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good way to shred your legs and genitals

[–] drislands 2 points 8 months ago

Better than your chest and head.

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[–] xc2215x 5 points 8 months ago

Very tragic way to go out.