this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2023
186 points (97.9% liked)

World News

39184 readers
2457 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Highlights:

Secretary of State Antony Blinken warned a small group of lawmakers last week that his department is tracking the possibility that Azerbaijan could soon invade Armenia, according to two people familiar with the conversation.

Azerbaijiani President Ilham Aliyev has previously called on Armenia to open a “corridor” along its southern border, linking mainland Azerbaijan to an exclave that borders Turkey and Iran. Aliyev has threatened to solve the issue “by force.”

top 30 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] FartsWithAnAccent 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey Earth, can you like, chill the fuck out for a while please?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just fyi, everyone, I'm thinking about annexing FartsWithAnAccent's house in coming weeks.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God damn it, that's it! I'm joining NATO.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'll do no such thing, mister!

[–] naticus 17 points 1 year ago

Everyone, I cordially invite you to the party in hosting at ivanafterall's place while they are preoccupied with the invasion on FartsWithAnAccent.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Earth: I'll be cool if you stop putting so much CO2, methane and other pollutants in the atmosphere.

[–] randon31415 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Would you like Armenian genocide to go with your Palestinian genocide? We are having a 2-for-1 sale on classic Muslim genocides this month.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but Armenians aren't muslims, they're majority Christian.

[–] randon31415 -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I didn't even know that. I assumed that they were Muslims from the region. Interesting that we haven't heard anything from the "Christians are being persecuted" crowd about them.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

The "Christians being persecuted" crowd only care about Target selling shirts with rainbows.

They were actually the first Christian nation in 301 AD/CE. Not that state religion is great, but it's an interesting history given they were sandwiched between the Romans and the Parthians at the time and were pretty much a football between the Romans and whoever was nextdoor throughout the entirety of the Roman empire. If they aligned with "nextdoor" the Romans often ignored them as long as they didn't allow armies from nextdoor through. And when the Romans had their own puppet king over there, well, bully for them.

Not much has changed. Now they're sandwiched between Turkey, Azerbaijan, Iran, and Georgia, with Georgia being a Russian conduit at least militarily if not politically. And Turkey and Azerbaijan are effectively one and the same with Azerbaijian having a dash of Russian influence. That's not a great place to be if you're a tiny country served as an appetizer to the surrounding powers.

Anyway, welcome to my TED Talk.

[–] Donjuanme 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just going to pass over the Ukrainian genocide?

Sure does seem like everyone's trying to go to war at once.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NOT_RICK 8 points 1 year ago

Crimean Tartars are Muslim and victims of Russia’s bullshit so they qualify

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I haven't finished following the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar yet. Can I pay in installments?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I'm late on my Uighur payments

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody really cares about Armenia, so this issue has flown under the radar in the past month:

On 19–20 September 2023 Azerbaijan initiated a military offensive in the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region which ended with the surrender of the self-declared Republic of Artsakh and the disbandment of its armed forces. Prior to this offensive, Nagorno-Karabakh, internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan but governed and populated by ethnic Armenians, had a population of nearly 120,000. Faced with threats of genocide and ethnic cleansing by Azerbaijan, over 100,400 ethnic Armenians, nearly the entire current population of Nagorno-Karabakh,[6] had fled by the end of September 2023.[2][3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_Nagorno-Karabakh_Armenians

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's because Nagorno-Karabakh is internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan. Always has been.

Now, if Azerbaijan invades actual Armenia proper, then that's a different story.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

if Azerbaijan invades actual Armenia proper, then that's a different story.

The possibility of that happening is literally the linked article.

Nagorno-Karabakh is internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan. Always has been.

Internationally recognized, fine. The population was about 120,000. 100,000 fled to Armenia after the attack. I'm sure they care about international lines on a map.

Always has been is categorically false. Armenia has been a country for about a thousand years before the ones who drew the lines on your map.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

The possibility of that happening is literally the linked article.

I know, it's the title of the article, but I've seen many comments in recent weeks suggesting it's already happened.

Internationally recognized, fine. The population was about 120,000. 100,000 fled to Armenia after the attack. I'm sure they care about international lines on a map.

Azerbaijan assured them they did not need to flee (for what it's worth).

Always has been is categorically false. Armenia has been a country for about a thousand years before the ones who drew the lines on your map.

This is true of almost every nation. Not excusing it, but nations get conquered and amalgamated. I hope we can stop doing that, but we can't just magically reset things.

Now, when it comes to Armenia, I think the borders could have been drawn better than they were after soviet collapse.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're really slow-rolling WWIII

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah. After WW2, it's all proxy battles now! Gotta let those developing nations duke it out for scraps while the war machine sell them weapons!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

All of the profit, none of the property destruction at home.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Oh boy, WW3 is really warming up huh? 😞

[–] STRIKINGdebate2 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Azerbaijan and Turkey are monitoring the west's reaction to what Israel is doing before going ahead. Turkey has been such a good Western alley lately really provided help at pivotal moments. What could of possibly made Turkey fall in line as heavily as it has.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What could of possibly made Turkey fall in line as heavily as it has.

F16s.

https://www.reuters.com/world/turkey-will-back-swedens-nato-bid-if-us-keeps-promise-f-16-sale-erdogan-2023-09-26/

Which is yet another reason why the West will hang Armenia out to dry.

Turkey already endorsed a corridor between the two countries through the south of Armenia, immediately after the attack on Artsakh, literally 4 days, while 100,000 Armenians were fleeing.

https://www.reuters.com/world/azerbaijani-turkish-leaders-hold-talks-eye-forging-land-corridor-via-armenia-2023-09-25/

Why would Armenia open this corridor voluntarily? Azerbaijan already pinky swore Artsakh wouldn't be attacked. Erdogan knows how this will be solved, and it won't be pen and paper.

[–] slumlordthanatos 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wars and rumors of wars.

I feel like that even if you don't believe in the apocalypse, we're living in the end times.

[–] wwaxen 8 points 1 year ago

"Wars and rumors of wars" is like "a day that ends in Y." It has never not been applicable.