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[–] Eheran 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While abandoning mainstream religious affiliation, many turn to alternative expressions, including secular, atheist and psychedelic churches. For about a decade, as a scholar who studies alternative expressions of spirituality, I have tracked these groups online

Atheists are not an "alternative expression of spirituality". It is the absence of it. The same way drying is not an alternative form of watering plants.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, it's an absence of theism. Atheist. You can do psychedelics and talk about spirituality without believing in theism and gods.

[–] eatthecake 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So what do you call a person who doesn't beleive in anything supernatural/spiritual/divine?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago
[–] Eheran 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The context is: Alternative expressions of religious affiliation [which were explored, including atheism]. Which is why I included that quote in my comment.

Maybe I am too strict and you can read it in another way, where that list of things (including atheism) is not necessarily part of that next sentence. But the author should also take care to avoid such things.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel like adding a church into the equation unnecessarily complicates matters - get high at home.

[–] Slice 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I suspect your arm didn't need much twisting.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

In many places like the US, a "church" makes the psychedelics legal

[–] weedazz 2 points 1 year ago

I know organized communities often lead to a lot of social issues but they can also do a lot of good. Social support is key to mental healt. Modern lifestyle makes it harder and harder to find that support, or even meet new people after you get to a certain age

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So this is why Walden was required reading in grade school; it'd have been crazy to go around thinking this was a new idea.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, the musings of someone who could afford to just live in a summer cottage on a pond and chose to live simply without the risk of failure is a real inspiration for the common man.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"Nones"

What the hell is wrong with "agnostic?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You don't need to "fill the void", there is no void to begin with.