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[โ€“] STRIKINGdebate2 4 points 1 year ago

I have decided to lock the comments of this post. There's been too much toxic engagement.

[โ€“] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

As someone who raised chickens: they could care more about family ties.

Of course there will be differences between breeds and individuals but some things I witnessed:

  • roosters, brothers by blood, fighting to the death
  • chickens stealing eggs from each other
  • chickens eating their own eggs (animals with good feed, grass and oister shells to peck on, fully available)
  • younger chickens ganging up on the matriarch
  • chickens killing their own chicks with no need to worry for lack of resources

Chickens are not gentle. In great enough numbers, chickens will even attack their predator. The birds can evaluate risk/success odds.

Again, there are more tame breeds and less tame ones. Some are the spawn of the deep pits where nightmares fester and grow.

[โ€“] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Far to many people that have no experience with animals give them human thoughts and competency.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Anthropomorphism.

That's a mouth full.

Sometimes it seems we are too evolved for our own good but I like to think this tendency of ours will lead to a greater good.

[โ€“] creditCrazy 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That theory goes out the window when you have a city sliker meet a farm animal in person. One of my favorite childhood pass times was seeing city blokes cower in fear of petting a chicken or goat especially when that same person has pictures of chickens in their home because they are cute

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That's just a whole lot of confirmation bias speaking. Most people are gonna hesitate when they encounter totally new things that's not unique to people from any type of place.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I've got a mug from a town I used to live in. It's a rooster with the name "Shitty Larry" written across it. He was a local celeb. A rooster so badly behaved he had to be rehomed, and the people who adopted him created a whole lifestyle around dealing with his "antics".

As I was leaving, Fucking Frank was also coming into the spotlight.

They're assholes. But they taste good.

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[โ€“] justlookingfordragon 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We had chickens when I was a teen. They regularily hunted, killed and ate small rodents, lizards/snakes and sometimes even small birds like young sparrows whenever they could catch them - everything that fits into a chicken's beak is fair game. And it wasn't exactly a pretty sight. Imagine a single panicked field mouse being chased by sixteen feathered mini velociraptors, all trying to kill the mouse first, and then all fighting each other FOR the (hopefully) dead prey, as noone ever wanted to share their kill.

Funnily enough, the rooster was was a cuddly little idiot. (he got beaten up by the hens occasionally)

And just t add some proof for some of the points above, here's a video of a single hen killing a hawk (warning, it is kinda graphic). They don't even need great numbers to shred their wannabe predators - one really p*ssed off chicken and an opportunity to strike back, that's all it takes.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

i've heard chickens will just casually peck others to death if they have a wound too, like it's not even malice or removing competition, they just do it from some fucked up instinct.

[โ€“] Number1SummerJam 9 points 1 year ago

I own chickens and have had a bullying problem in the past. In the winter they have a lot less space and they get bored and stressed easily. The hen that took the "rooster"/protector role started pecking the smallest and sweetest chicken and drew blood. I had to keep the small chicken isolated from the flock for a few weeks while its wounds healed and put special goggles on the bully chicken for a month- they prevent it from seeing in front of itself so it forgets what's there after a few seconds. Yeah they can be vicious, but it's definitely preventable if they're raised right instead of at a factory farm.

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[โ€“] saltesc 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well it may not have had much a family since hens cannibalise their chicks.

[โ€“] SuckMyWang 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

God fucked up and made them way too tasty

[โ€“] Sheeple 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chickens are basically tiny raptors. They even hunt mice when given the chance

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[โ€“] ShitOnABrick 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] Sir_Simon_Spamalot 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

fuck peta

edit: oh no! the soyboys are attacking!

[โ€“] FlyingSquid 24 points 1 year ago (24 children)

They should hate PETA too. No one has done more to hurt the cause of ending animal cruelty than PETA.

Their shelter euthanization rates are shocking too.

[โ€“] Sir_Simon_Spamalot 13 points 1 year ago

Thank you! There's surprisingly an awful number of supporters here, I don't know why...

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[โ€“] citrusface 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[โ€“] Sir_Simon_Spamalot 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm a full-time meat eater, but I respect vegans who don't go around minding people's businesses, which is exactly what peta does.

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[โ€“] x4740N 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They had hopes and dreams, a 10-year plan, they JUST bought a new car, their eldest daughter just had a child...

You're right, chickens and humans are basically identical

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