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[–] dangblingus 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll use my Win 10 machine as the daily driver until the very last day of support. I game in 1080, and my 6gb 1060 coupled with my 6700k blows all but the very latest and most demanding games out of the water.

By the time I'm strong armed into Win 11, there might be a better option by then, but at the very least it will be a nice cheap time to upgrade to 2-3 year old hardware so I can continue playing factorio, but in 1440 instead of 1080.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just so everyone knows at one point Microsoft was forced to buy your unused windows key on a new computer. It would be a damn shame if we forced them to do that again.

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[–] danielfgom 16 points 1 year ago

It's true. Windows 11 looks too different for many people, especially in Enterprise and Small Business. People know the Windows 7/10 look and layout and don't want to learn something new.

Also, when we rolled out 10 in the Enterprise we had our fair share of issues which were eventually worked out over time. Now 10 is finally stable, no one wants to change it again.

Especially in a Manufacturing business where every second counts and any delays cost money, you don't have time for Windows issues.

Microsoft should make Windows 10 a "Pro" OS for Enterprise and support it forever, and make Windows 11 the "Home" OS for families to use at home. After all they only did it to complete with MacOS, which is predominantly used by home users and doesn't feature massively in Enterprise

[–] peopleproblems 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hehehe they can't force me to switch if I don't have secure boot.

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[–] iyaerP 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I will die before I use Windows 11.

"Upgrading" from 7 to 10 was already painful enough.

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[–] Decoy321 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would absolutely rather stick with 10 if I could've. Hell, give me back XP.

[–] sweetchildintime 15 points 1 year ago

Win 7 is peak Windows for me, but yeah, XP is fine. So is 2K or even Vista for that matter. With every release since 7 MS seem to have been actively looking for ways to make the UI experience worse.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Until they let me use Windows 11 without a TPM, how am I supposed to upgrade?

[–] sweetchildintime 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, it's actually not that difficult if you really want to, but there's really no good reason to do so right now. It's basically just the same OS with an even more annoying UI.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Hi. Would you like to back up to the windows cloud? You can say yes or you can tell us to remind you in a week.

You want to not be reminded? Fuck you.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had to get a new PC and it came with WIN 11 honestly it's not any more terrible than any other version of Windows once I shut off all the obnoxious options that are defaulted on. But also I never would have bothered installing it if I hadn't gotten an entirely new system.

[–] MasterBlaster 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's what you can't see that is problematic. The surveillance is turned up to 11. Ba-dum Tish!

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[–] pathief 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putting the obvious privacy issues aside (which also exist in Windows 10), my friends/family who use Windows actually enjoy Windows 11. Most people don't care about privacy, they enjoy running the most recent windows edition whatever that is.

The problem is that Windows 11 introduced some really arbitrary hardware requirements and people who actually want to upgrade don't have the tech knowledge to bypass them. These sites think people hate windows 11 but they're just too poor to upgrade.

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[–] MrFlamey 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't even understand why Windows 11 exists. I thought Windows 10 was meant to be the last version and then it was continually upgraded. They never add any particularly good new features, so I'm happy with security updates and staying behind a few months on feature updates to avoid being a beta tester.

Oh, and Windows 11 removed the ability to put the taskbar on the left or right, and I would have thought that perhaps teams of engineers and designers paid 100k+ in a trillion dollar company would be able to make that a reality, regardless of whether or not it's only 1% of users (millions of people) that use that feature. I heard the right click menus have been fucked up by some idiot as well, and the sad thing is they probably spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to make them that way, after many many depressing meetings and someone had to task it all out in Azure, whilst gradually losing the will to live, just to eventually make an already existent feature worse. Nice job Microsoft.

I'm happy to wait until Windows 11 is at least at feature parity with Windows 10 and thoroughly tested before I "upgrade". I suspect some things got better, but it isn't worth it.

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[–] capital 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at the bright side - there’s gonna be shitloads of not that old enterprise hardware on the market.

During the rise of work from home the last few years, my wife needed a home desktop setup. I picked up a used Dell micro for like $200, installed 10 and we were off. She basically just needed an RDP connection so nothing special.

If she needed to continue past when 10 was supported I’d just throw Fedora on there and go through FreeRDP.

I’ve got another micro running some VMs on Proxmox. I love these things.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I'm running Win7 because I don't wanna fiddle around with Linux as the primary use of my computron is gaming. Steam announced that it will stop running on Win7 starting January 2024. Not sure what I will be doing January 2024 yet, currently trying to decide between Linux and a pirated Win10. Open for suggestions.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Windows means it's not your computer. Simple as that. Maybe that's OK for most people, sure.

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[–] dym_sh 12 points 1 year ago

the ghost of obsolescence

the 4ᵗʰ ghost of christmas

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