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How do y'all cope with this

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[–] thantik 105 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (32 children)

I struggle every day with the thought that the corporate noose tightening around all of our necks will not be solved unless we as a society begin to provide some real ... 'mortal incentive' to the oligarchs of the world. No way I could ever do it myself, but I understand the need for it now more than ever.

Normally I'm a solutions guy. I shouldn't be coming up with this as a solution for the issues of the world right now, but it's gotten so egregious that the systems we've put in place FOR THE PEOPLE are not working for the people any longer.

[–] WaxedWookie 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Threat of force is a solution.

It's basically what the police exist to do - behave the way we want, or we'll send someone with a gun to take your money, property, freedom, or life.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (30 children)

All authority is derived from the monopolization of violence.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
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[–] rip_art_bell 5 points 1 year ago

It's not like they're giving us much choice

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Blowing up fossil fuel infrastructure is a moronic idea that'll create an environmental disaster worse than the infrastructure existing. Instead, sabotage it so that it stops flowing.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Good point, way less environmental damage to do something about the execs and billionaires in this world

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Right?! All the dumbfucks talking about blowing up pipelines want to trade one environmental disaster for another. Its pathetically misguided.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Are you morally obligated or are you ethically obligated? Or is it both?

[–] wreckedcarzz 43 points 1 year ago

I'm just here to blow shit up tbh

[–] TropicalDingdong 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you morally obligated or are you ethically obligated? Or is it both?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

difference?

[–] Daisyifyoudo 5 points 1 year ago

Ethics refer to a set of rules provided by an external source. I think this is 100% a moral obligation to blow shit up.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How about a foreign fossil fuel infrastructure first?

-Your friendly neighborhood CIA agent

/s

[–] Chunk 11 points 1 year ago

Hey got any fun terror plans I can hop in on? Just text me the address and I'm there.

-Your friendly neighborhood FBI informant.

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[–] Slwh47696 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just killing billionaires is probably the best option

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we run a Go Fund Me to hire a hitman?

[–] LemmysMum 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flash mob might work better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A muzzle flash mob, if you will...

Sorry, I'll show myself out lol

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Blowing it up will not stop them as they'd just rebuild. More pollution in the process.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I assume there's gotta be a better way. Like clogging it beyond repair (shut off+completely solidified), siphoning operations (assuming a spill isn't caused)... And in either case, converting it into something less bad and/or storing the carbon in a stable manner.

(Although even rebuilding from what I see may be at least $1M-$2M per mile, they sure have the money but it's not insignificant either)

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[–] Chunk 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard they protect the pipelines near places where it's easy to access and they know pretty quickly where the break happened so they can find you. It's quite difficult to actually figure out how to blow up a pipeline and not immediately get arrested.

[–] CADmonkey 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are thousands of miles of pipeline, Im not so sure.

For all their bluster, did the FBI ever find the guy(s) who shot up the substation in south carolina last year? No it isn't a pipeline, and it was attacked for dumbass rightoid reasons, but... did they ever find who did it?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the us and China had a nuclear war the planet might survive.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

If you start being a nudist then they have too see you naked when they spy on you.

[–] RizzRustbolt 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How do I cope? Video games that let me blow up infrastructure.

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[–] Landmammals 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly what I was just thinking. This exact realization is a significant plot point in the book

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same thoughts, my mind even came up with a good plan. Drones equipped with remote activated termite pots. It melts through steel easily and fossil fuels burn. You can do this from a distance and it uses cheap available materials. I don't have the guts to do it though... So it remains an Idea.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thermite pots? Or maybe scary GM termites

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've looped around to sadomasochism.

Destroy the world! Kill us all! Burn me more daddy!!! 👐 😩 💦

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] taiyang 7 points 1 year ago

I would, but this bad air quality thanks to our fossil fuel industry has given me pretty bad asthma and other respetory problems resulting in low energy.

Too sleepy.

Y'all blow it up for me tho, ya? Imma take a nap.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Smash the Petroliarchy!!!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Final Fantasy VII

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Monkey Wrench gang gang

[–] Donkter 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easy. Think this, believe this, never do anything about it. Let's see how you grow to handle it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

and pay attention to your wife!

[–] rockSlayer 4 points 1 year ago

I generally imagine myself standing on trial with the argument of self defense. While it's what I would argue in a hypothetical criminal trial, the outcome is enough of a deterrent

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