I struggle every day with the thought that the corporate noose tightening around all of our necks will not be solved unless we as a society begin to provide some real ... 'mortal incentive' to the oligarchs of the world. No way I could ever do it myself, but I understand the need for it now more than ever.
Normally I'm a solutions guy. I shouldn't be coming up with this as a solution for the issues of the world right now, but it's gotten so egregious that the systems we've put in place FOR THE PEOPLE are not working for the people any longer.
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Threat of force is a solution.
It's basically what the police exist to do - behave the way we want, or we'll send someone with a gun to take your money, property, freedom, or life.
the systems we’ve put in place FOR THE PEOPLE
lol, no (or to be more accurate - which people?)
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic
https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-democracy-illusion-choice
It's not like they're giving us much choice
Blowing up fossil fuel infrastructure is a moronic idea that'll create an environmental disaster worse than the infrastructure existing. Instead, sabotage it so that it stops flowing.
Good point, way less environmental damage to do something about the execs and billionaires in this world
Right?! All the dumbfucks talking about blowing up pipelines want to trade one environmental disaster for another. Its pathetically misguided.
Are you morally obligated or are you ethically obligated? Or is it both?
I'm just here to blow shit up tbh
Are you morally obligated or are you ethically obligated? Or is it both?
difference?
Ethics refer to a set of rules provided by an external source. I think this is 100% a moral obligation to blow shit up.
How about a foreign fossil fuel infrastructure first?
-Your friendly neighborhood CIA agent
/s
Hey got any fun terror plans I can hop in on? Just text me the address and I'm there.
-Your friendly neighborhood FBI informant.
Just killing billionaires is probably the best option
Can we run a Go Fund Me to hire a hitman?
Flash mob might work better.
Blowing it up will not stop them as they'd just rebuild. More pollution in the process.
Yeah, I assume there's gotta be a better way. Like clogging it beyond repair (shut off+completely solidified), siphoning operations (assuming a spill isn't caused)... And in either case, converting it into something less bad and/or storing the carbon in a stable manner.
(Although even rebuilding from what I see may be at least $1M-$2M per mile, they sure have the money but it's not insignificant either)
I heard they protect the pipelines near places where it's easy to access and they know pretty quickly where the break happened so they can find you. It's quite difficult to actually figure out how to blow up a pipeline and not immediately get arrested.
There are thousands of miles of pipeline, Im not so sure.
For all their bluster, did the FBI ever find the guy(s) who shot up the substation in south carolina last year? No it isn't a pipeline, and it was attacked for dumbass rightoid reasons, but... did they ever find who did it?
If you start being a nudist then they have too see you naked when they spy on you.
Exactly what I was just thinking. This exact realization is a significant plot point in the book
Same thoughts, my mind even came up with a good plan. Drones equipped with remote activated termite pots. It melts through steel easily and fossil fuels burn. You can do this from a distance and it uses cheap available materials. I don't have the guts to do it though... So it remains an Idea.
I've looped around to sadomasochism.
Destroy the world! Kill us all! Burn me more daddy!!! 👐 😩 💦
I would, but this bad air quality thanks to our fossil fuel industry has given me pretty bad asthma and other respetory problems resulting in low energy.
Too sleepy.
Y'all blow it up for me tho, ya? Imma take a nap.
Smash the Petroliarchy!!!
Final Fantasy VII
Monkey Wrench gang gang
Easy. Think this, believe this, never do anything about it. Let's see how you grow to handle it.
and pay attention to your wife!
I generally imagine myself standing on trial with the argument of self defense. While it's what I would argue in a hypothetical criminal trial, the outcome is enough of a deterrent