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FBI indicts three in insider trading scheme that utilized Xbox 360 chat to hide comms | Ringleader could be looking at as much as 165 years in prison::undefined

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[–] camr_on 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AntiHeroChris 8 points 1 year ago

SIE VERLIEREN

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

165 years for white collar crime, no fucking chance

They only made $322k, that's nothing.

What did the Enron guys get?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago

They didnt make enough money to receive a lesser sentence.

[–] sock 20 points 1 year ago

yeah that's insane that murder is like we might put u in jail but you'll be released in a couple years

fuckin 20 bucks is stolen and that's an instant 100 year sentence

[–] CaptainPedantic 7 points 1 year ago

Skilling got 24 years which was reduced to 14 in 2013. Lay was convicted of crimes that have a max sentence of 45 years, but died before sentencing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They're probably not rich.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

HEY! You stole money from the people who have lots of money! THAT’S MORE ILLEGAL THAN ALL THE OTHER STUFF!

[–] TwoGems 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like the part where it's like a zillion times more illegal than trying to overthrow democracy. The USA "justice system" is a joke.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Ironically, Viggiano and his team from the University of Tampa won a 2018 ethics competition

Best part of the article.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Salamone tried to keep the lion's share for himself and undid them all by recording the conversations. Conspiracies sure would be a lot more popular if everyone involved wasn't a scumbag.

[–] the_dopamine_fiend 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like what Robert Anton Wilson had to say about conspiracies and their life cycles:

"[A]s far as I’ve been able to discover in all my years of being involved, more or less unwillingly, in this field, I cannot find any proof of any conspiracy that really existed, was really brought into court and convicted, that lasted more than ten years before everybody double-crossed everybody else and the conspiracy fell apart."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fairness, there has to be some survivorship bias here: if the members of a conspiracy don't double-cross each other and are competent enough not to expose themselves, it's a lot less likely they'd ever get brought into court in the first place.

[–] the_dopamine_fiend 1 points 1 year ago

Agreed, and I suppose it's the ones we don't hear about that are the real bad ones.

[–] sugarfree 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Points for creativity, I guess? I'm pretty sure a Goldman Sachs analyst can figure out how to do it properly, though...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact, personal cell phones on the trading floor arnt allowed, to avoid unlogged comms by traders.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't trading floors mostly empty these days since trading is much more automated?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, but as long as human traders exist, there is a need to log all of their communication to prevent malfeasance

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They just copied the idea from terrorists

[–] fat_stig 6 points 1 year ago

Rubber dinghy rapids bro