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[–] [email protected] 115 points 9 months ago (1 children)

First sale doctrine should forbid this behavior entirely. Once you sold it it's not yours to disable.

The article doesn't say they are offering a refund or replacement phone approved for mexico frequencies... so this is a massive dick move.

Do the phones start to work again if operated outside of Mexico?

Bricking phones by geolocation is massively evil and we should do everything we can to discourage it.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Custom bootloaders, recovery and ROMs are more quickly going from a nerdy gimmick to a necessity.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All the more surprising that Google of all brands makes it so easy to do on their devices

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Most of google doesnt care about ongoing hardware sales, so the software teams can do cool things.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Samsungs Fold devices lose their camera functionality if you custom root 😂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Extreme bummer. I am actually dreaming of getting a Fold. Maybe as custom ROMs develop, I am sure it's just they have not yet understood how to properly implement it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Samsung has deliberately fucked the user.

[–] Neon 3 points 9 months ago

i have heard of custom Roms and even TWRP, but custom Bootloaders?!

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean i understand they wanna do something against unauthorized sellers, but fucking consumers in the process is wrong in any way.

It's a joke that a phone provider can lock phones remotely no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean i understand they wanna do something against unauthorized sellers, but fucking consumers in the process is wrong in any way.

Don't pay much attention to me, the end user (Mexican).... but... I have a crazy idea... what about lowering prices? :D

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did you ever think about the rich shareholders who really need the extra money to buy another vacation home in Hawaii?

They realllyyyyyy needd theee moneeeey

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I am so inconsiderate.

[–] sebinspace 29 points 9 months ago

This is nauseating and shouldn’t be possible.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Companies love the free market until they don't.

[–] TheInsane42 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Free for companies, not free for customers.There seems to be a difference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We should all just start LLCs before we do anything. I am not a lawyer but that'll work right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Geoblocking everything while moving their hq to tax havens and don't pay shit.

[–] Zak 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know how Mexican laws about computer trespass work, but I think this would be a crime most places.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In US, it's sadly not as clear cut

[–] TheInsane42 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's normal in the US for companies to have rights and customers to not have rights.

[–] Nuwanda 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Devices purchased abroad for use in Mexico, though, will apparently not be disabled

How do they know where they purchased it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Nuwanda 5 points 9 months ago

That might say where the phone is intended to be sold, not where they purchased. As I understood it, Motorola wants to ban foreign phones purchased in Mexico. How can they differentiate them from foreign phones purchased abroad?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Different internal model number?

[–] Nuwanda 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That says where the phone is intended to be sold, not where it's purchased. As I understood it, Motorola wants to ban foreign phones purchased in Mexico. How can they differentiate them from foreign phones purchased abroad?

[–] thenightisdark 2 points 9 months ago

When a phone is sold the unique number is submitted. This number is going to come from authorized dealer or an unauthorized dealer.

If a dealer in California submits that IME number, then they can differentiate that from a dealer in Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

30% Discount? You need to give the phone for free or for an extremely low shipment price.

This is a shit move to get money from more financially challenged people at that discount rate. It's not their fault they paid for something they need from an "unauthorized" sellers, and definitely a lot of people don't have the money to buy the phone again but from you.

[–] Alkatane 1 points 9 months ago

Do they know about that thanks to IMEI right?