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A person can be killed instantly through many different means. Gunshots to the brain, being crushed by immense weight, being crushed by smaller weights moving at high speeds, high speed collisions with hard surfaces.

As we know it, to be killed painlessly, is to be killed instantly.

If you instantly destroy a person's entire brain then they died without pain.

Yet the most effective ways of instantly destroying someone's entire brain are considered ihumane.

Like letting someone die of an untreatable disease but giving them so many pain meds they can't feel anything is "humane" but shooting them in the brainstem or destroying the entire brain isn't.

If instantly killing someone by smashing their head with a massive rock, or shooting them in the brain stem is inhumane, then humans only consider it "humane" if it doesn't leave a mess.

Obviously I've left out a lot of different ways to die, be they slowly or instantaneous, but that list is massive.

But I'd much rather die messily yet painlessly than painfully yet "pretty"

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you evacuate your bowels when you die, then no method of death is not messy.

Also was this reposted or did the comments just get nuked? πŸ€”

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 3 points 1 year ago

I originally made this post on showerthoughts but it didn't receive positive attention.

I know you're pretty active so you might've seen it there.

I reposted it here since it seemed controversial which seems fitting for this community.

[–] lugal 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about killing people is always inhumane?

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 1 points 1 year ago

Humans will die regardless of that ideology. They will die painfully and slowly or painlessly and quickly.

But killing someone as quickly as possible, regardless of how "horrific" is more "humane" than killing them slowly, or in a way that causes unnecessary pain.

[–] MisterChief 2 points 1 year ago

I definitely see why you would post this to unpopular. I see why humane an inhimne would be so hard to define.

It's inhumane for a solider to surrender in a fight and be starved or tortured to death in a prison camp.

It's humane for a late stage cancer patient to be given a set of drugs to allow them to die without pain.

The middle ground is where it gets real blurry. Hopefully humanity progresses enough to straighten out that middle ground and ideally eliminate it all together.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The mess can be mitigated if you're selective about where it's done.

I don't think there's a difference in regard to the humane value, whether you shoot someone in a lab vs hanging over a bridge railing.

[–] Asudox 1 points 1 year ago

Does it count as painless (a.k.a instant death) if I get drugs that disable my nerve system and some sadist starts attempting to kill by torture?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Inhumane is when someone does it to you purposefully, it has little to do with the pain factor.

Losing your head in a car accident is not inhumane, losing your head as the death penalty is.