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Polling conducted in August by All In Together, in partnership with polling firm Echelon Insights found that 34 percent of women aged 18-39 said they or someone they know personally has “decided not to get pregnant due to concerns about managing pregnancy-related medical emergencies.” Put another way, poor or unavailable maternal health care post-Dobbs is leading people to alter some of their most important life choices.

For young people, the maternal healthcare crisis is deeply personal. More than a third of young people and 22 percent of young women say they have personally dealt with or know someone who has “faced constraints when trying to manage a pregnancy-related emergency.” And 23 percent of 18- to 39-year-old women say they have themselves or know someone else who has been unable to obtain an abortion in their state — a number almost three times higher than respondents in other age groups.

Perhaps most surprisingly however, these results are similar regardless of whether the respondents are living in states with abortion bans or states without restrictions on abortion access. The consistency between red and blue states suggests that the statistics on maternal mortality and the stories and struggles of women navigating the new normal on abortion access have penetrated the psyche of young people everywhere. The Dobbs decision, it seems, has fundamentally altered how people feel about having families and the calculus for getting pregnant.

In the wake of Dobbs, stories of women enduring horrific medical trauma in states where abortion is illegal have been widely reported. For instance, Carmen Broesder, an Idaho mom, documented her 19-day long harrowing miscarriage on TikTok – including her three trips to the emergency room. While only six weeks pregnant, she was denied access to a D&C (dilation and curettage) surgery because of Idaho’s abortion ban.

It goes almost without saying that this is not good news for the already declining birthrates in the U.S. According to research from Pew, birthrates in the U.S. had been falling since the early 2000s and plummeted during the Covid pandemic. Fertility rates briefly rebounded after the pandemic but now, post-Dobbs, they have dropped again.

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[–] Shelbyeileen 159 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I'm pro life"

Oh cool, so you voted for and support better healthcare? Better pay for teachers? Allotting more tax money to support schools? An increase in WIC? Maternity leave? Paternity leave? Foster system funding? School lunch programs? Childcare/daycare programs? More funding for women's health centers that provide STI testing and contraception? An increase to Medicaid's asset limit of $2k that hasn't changed since 1974? Mental health programs? An increase in SSI for disabled children/parents because no one can survive off $10.9k/year anymore?

No?!? Then shut up, you're pro forced birth, not pro life.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Pro " believe whatever I believe right now"

[–] CADmonkey 131 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Late last year, I arranged to get a vasectomy because my wife is amazing, and I don't want to put her through a pregnancy in my state. The urologist who performed the surgery said there had been a significant uptick in the amount of vasectomies he had scheduled because of the recent abortion ruling.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Got mine earlier this year and it was totally worth it. Best ten minute surgery followed by a weekend on the couch ever. 10/10 would recommend.

[–] Dkarma 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cake procedure, super fast recovery and almost no pain in my experience. I recommend it to everyone.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you’ve got an experienced doc it’s basically just wearing baggy pants and avoiding ball taps for a couple weeks. Mine did ten or fifteen a week and I barely felt a thing. If the pain is keeping anyone from doing it they should reconsider.

[–] CADmonkey 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Before I had it done I was told all sorts of horror stories by people who hadn't had a vasectomy but "knew a guy who did, and it was horrible, trust me bro". The surgery was literally painless. I laid in bed all day playing Factorio on my laptop, and two days later I was basically fine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I had the same experience but the worst part was the month I had to still use condoms before they verified I was shooting blanks.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Best decision I ever made!

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[–] iforgotmyinstance 111 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine growing up in the wealthiest nation on earth, only to die giving birth. That's a real hazard which American women have to consider.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

what a sick joke of a country

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And people of color, and foreigners, and the poor, and democrats...

I think they just hate everyone

[–] reversebananimals 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They hate each other too. Republicans who aren't hateful enough are "RINO"s.

The only saving grace of facism is that it inevitably eats itself.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but the problem is it's after it gets bored of eating everything else.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Depends on your net worth more than anything.

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[–] Gingerlegs 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If only we could have seen this coming /s

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

I remember reading an article a few months after the Dobbs decision that said birth rates were up, and I thought to myself "not for long."

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had my fallopian tubes removed after the Dobbs decision leaked

[–] littlewonder 19 points 1 year ago

I did as well AND my partner already has a vasectomy.

I live in a state that's scary-close to fucking with abortions and I am not about to mess with an abortion in this atmosphere if his vas deferens is the tiny percent that regrows together. Not to mention that no human is immune to sexual assault :/

Goddamn, I was so mad that I felt forced to do that.

[–] greenfish 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two of my friends did as well. A bunch also ran for iuds in case they came for the pill next

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went for a bilateral salpingectomy because I figured if they came after the pill, they were coming after IUDs too.

IUDs still need to come out at some point. That's care that could be denied because of laws.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Related story:

In a post-Roe country, a Florida doctor wonders where to call home

In New Zealand, abortion was legal, but there was a shortage of doctors. Rapkin was going to help lead a training program in the country’s capital, much like the one she’d built here, but with less red tape. This time, she would be paid by the government for her work, not singled out for it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was certainly a factor in my vasectomy decision.

[–] canuckkat 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'd still recommend a condom, not just for STIs but also because vasectomies are not 100%.

Just ask my brother who got one and his wife is now expecting in December.

[–] jose1324 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean then the brother didn't get properly tested afterwards

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[–] CADmonkey 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah you have to wait like 12 weeks, and get tested.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This kind of shit is the reason antibiotic resistant bacteria is on the rise.

When a doctor tells you to do something after treating you, fucking do it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Well, I only fuck my wife so if I get an STI then at least I learned something important, and my count is 0 so if she gets pregnant very likely ditto.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that was the intended result

[–] Dkarma 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think again. They want birth rates up not down.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want the faithful to outbreed the heathens.

[–] Dkarma 5 points 1 year ago

Nah they just want cheap labor

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I mean the unintentional result was soooo badly needed. Everyone should have access to abortion but I'm glad people have the education and understanding to chose life over unwanted pregnancy and possible death.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
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