Pretty sad that they worked on this game for years, and a core part of the game was fixed in days.
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Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallouts... all of them had extremely basic UI inventories that were fixed by modders.
I'm starting to think they do it on purpose because they work close with modders already.
I was going to say, has Bethesda ever made a good inventory management interface? It feels like they produce a minimally viable product because they know they can crowdsource a variety of options from modders.
Don't forget Morrowind. Being able to resize the UI to suit your needs was pretty handy, but in the end inventory management also was very basic. You could filter items on Weapons, Apparel, Magic and Misc, but that was it. Good luck finding that specific potion in your endless ocean of flasks and bottles after a good Alchemy session. 😁
Oblivion actually had a functioning UI, at least in relation to the others, it just had the UI elements at a size that you could see them from a mile away.
Hence the need for new dev leadership.
Todd Howard has an alien brain so he thinks differently when it comes to UI design
I don't think Todd is designing the UI lol
Todd is too busy making it so we can climb that mountain over there to care about UI
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Standard Bethesda
Design the whole game so that it’s equally bad on all platforms then rely on modders to make it functional on PC
And by standard, you mean bad outright. Bethesda doesn't get away with QOL improvements that every other major game company figured out years ago.
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The mod came out on the 5th, I wasn't expecting anyone to make a similar mod THIS fast.
I went on to the Nexus to try to find a mod that wouldn't at least improve the inventory UI a bit, specifically one that adds value per mass stat. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw someone had made SkyUI/FallUI type of mod already. The mod author is fucking insane for being able to make the mod that fast.
Seriously! Either Bethesda gives modders a sneak peak, or the UI code for Fallout & Starfield are pretty similar since they're on the Creation engine.
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I don't remember how long it took but I had SkyUI on my first playthrough at launch of Skyrim.
There's a reason why people said things like "are you ready for the new modding platform from Bethesda!?".
It's actually very similar to Reddit and their mods, well former mods anyway. Profiting off of free labor.
This mod is so fucking nice to have. There’s a couple minor uninpacting bugs but it’s a huge improvement imo.
I’d love if the dev ended up making something similar for the ship builder. I wanna see manufacturer, mass etc on one screen.
Why they fuck did they think it was a good idea not to let out the stats you actually need to know for your ship considering the complexity of building a ship. Why would we want to have to hover over wax item and go back and forth a billion times? Is this where they get their game time calculations from?
I’d love if the dev ended up making something similar for the ship builder. I wanna see manufacturer, mass etc on one screen.
Yeah same, its UI was one the big reasons I noped out of the ship builder at first haha
It’s a pain at first fs. Yesterday was my first day fucking with it and spent a few hours fuckin around.
One shortcut I kinda pieces together was that same prices = same stats but the main thing is being able to see thrust, mass, and manufacture all of which are of course behind a mouse hover lol
I do have to say this feature in general is pretty cool. Love the ability to “figurine” my ship together. Space engineers has a similar mechanic for all vehicles but you gotta do it “Lego” style and do it literally brick by brick which can be unnecessarily tedious.
Thanks for the info.
Personally one thing that really annoyed me in my first galnce at the ship builder was not being able to rotate pieces by 90°, I'm not sure how much of an actual gripe it actually is but there was a cargo hold that I had space to add on the back of my ship but couldn't because it wouldn't it's a side-piece and wouldn't snap to the back. Maybe there's an equivalent back-piece, idk, but still.
Oh yeah that part is also whack as fuck haha. They do sometimes have different variants of a part that are for each facing combo (side+facing)
Another weird decision. You gotta wonder if they put some of these goofy ass features in on purpose so they can “fix” them later for cool kid points and to relieve themselves of some launch day pressure haha
I think the first DLC might add space stations that you can build, a player was able to take a space station into his fleet thanks to a bug, and there were some other supporting evidence for it. If it really is that, it might mean ship builder improvements if we are lucky.
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Can't see the stats and can't see for example what workbenches ship parts contain.... this is making me real tempted to learn modding.
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This mod made a significant difference in how much I enjoy the game. I spend far less time in menus thinking what to drop or keep when I'm encumbered.
Being able to sort by columns. Being able to see the value of something based on its weight.
Being able to quickly scan for food, meds, xp boosts.
Being able to see how much weight in each category.
This mod is easily a required install.
Some silly UI oversights i've found:
- absolutely no way to tell what magazines you have and the effects
- with the powers - I can't tell which one I have equipped or if I have enough mana or whatever it's called to use it
My biggest UI gripe has to be the lack of a Contraband menu, instead you have to search through all your gear looking for a tiny yellow or red tag.
Yeah i just don't bother picking it up (at least after the first time). The money isn't really worth it when you could just loot spacesuits or guns etc.
Which is hard to do when quick looting because you can't see the tag, the whole contraband system is such a pain.
Yeah, I would like to see an overall list of buffs from magazines for sure, but good news is you don't have to keep them in your inventory to apply!
If you only do one mod this is the one, the native inventory screens are fucking atrocious
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will this mod stop steam achievements?
If it does, add in SFSE and the Baka achievement enabler, both are on Nexus as well.
It does not disable achievements.
I don’t think so but I’m running the mod that enables achievement earning no matter what so…
Best feature imo are the DPS & Value / Mass columns.
Wish Microsoft was cool about making mods compatible on GamePass.
You can install mods for the Game Pass version, the exe is different so the script extender doesn't work but StarUI doesn't use the script extender. I have 4 or 5 mods installed via Vortex right now for Starfield Game Pass version.
I would try to walk you through how to set it up but it was so seamless and basic I don't even remember. Just install Vortex and point it to your Starfield/Content directory... on whatever drive you told Game Pass to install the game on.
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