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Under the new restrictions, short-term renters will need to register with the city and must be present in the home for the duration of the rental

Home-sharing company Airbnb said it had to stop accepting some reservations in New York City after new regulations on short-term rentals went into effect.

The new rules are intended to effectively end a free-for-all in which landlords and residents have been renting out their apartments by the week or the night to tourists or others in the city for short stays. Advocates say the practice has driven a rise in demand for housing in already scarce neighbourhoods in the city.

Under the new system, rentals shorter than 30 days are only allowed if hosts register with the city. Hosts must also commit to being physically present in the home for the duration of the rental, sharing living quarters with their guest. More than two guests at a time are not allowed, either, meaning families are effectively barred.

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[–] [email protected] 175 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the early days of airbnb was basically this concept.

they didn't start out as a marketplace for unregulated hotels that destroy housing markets. that didn't happen until after they started cashing checks ~~venture~~ vulture capitalists.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So many people forget this origin. Air mattress in your spare room (in SF), iirc.

As much as I, personally, prefer a house when away - either with the family or as a couple - this is one of the drivers behind the crunch in housing. People can’t possibly afford to by a place to live when the competition is a wanna-be property “entrepreneur” who is going to get 2-4x market rent by doing short term rentals.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago

Originally my mum moved my brother and I into the same room and rented out the empty room for $40 a night. The cleaning fee was $20 and we still cleared $2,000 in one summer.

My brother and I each got a 5% cut and we bought ice creams from Safeway every day for a week until we got wicked stomach aches

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[–] dystop 152 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (57 children)

I took a trip out to the Rockies earlier this year, and booked an AirBnB. The listing was for the basement of a house where a lovely old retired couple lived. The basement was decorated and furnished beautifully, and we got to chat with the couple every now and then. They gave us recommendations to a farmer's market which was pretty cool.

It was the first time I've ever booked an Airbnb that was true to its original mission. This is what AirBnb should be - renting out spare rooms - and not a turn-an-apartment-unit-into-a-hotel thing.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 year ago (19 children)

NY is killing it. More of this, please.

Airbnb has fought the rules in court, arguing they were essentially a ban, and that they would hurt visitors looking for affordable accommodation.

They're called hotels. A ban is appropriate. Fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Not to mention legitimate bed and breakfasts are still legal and well regulated businesses.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Damn this seems like a hot take given the comments but I think these rules are dumb. If I go on a two week vacation somewhere else I should be able to rent out my place for those two weeks. The issue isn't AirBnB as a whole, it's people buying up places for the express intention of only using it for AirBnB,

There should be some cap on often a place can be used for short term rentals like 4 weeks out of the year, enough that people who vacation somewhere else can use AirBnb and low enough that it makes more financial sense for people to rent it out long term instead of short.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

The issue is how to enforce granular rules like that. You'll end up with people buying time shares of airbnbs or some other wacky workaround. The issue ultimately is, if you leave any wiggle room, grifters will ruin it for the people using that wiggle room as intended. You can't put in a law and expect everyone to adhere to the spirit of said law. I think with the litany of other property value issues that NY has, this hard line in the sand makes sense. It sucks that the grifters ruined it for people like you and I but the fact of the matter is that they did.

[–] angrymouse 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

There should be a cap to how many buildings a person or a company can own. Why a person can have more than 3 homes? In the current world, this does not make any sense.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

100% agree and while at it I don't think any single family homes or rowhouse/townhouses should be owned by corporations. Apartments and such I can understand the building owned by a management company that only does long term rentals but otherwise homes should be owned by people.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (67 children)

I don’t know how I feel about this. On one hand: I dislike the trend of commercial companies buying up living space to turn around and rent it out to disruptive short-term tenants.

On the other hand: I don’t want to have anyone else present in my rental with me because that’s creepy.

[–] Ejh3k 74 points 1 year ago

That's the point.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

If you and I stay in hotels, people who work there will be able to afford to live near there.

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