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[–] BombOmOm 143 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm amused by the implication that Russians and Ukrainians have a strong, brotherly bond; but that Russians are perfectly fine with shooting their brothers, taking their brother's land. Even the cheery Russian propaganda paints Russians as monsters.

[–] volodymyr 28 points 1 year ago

They are saying that they only destroy westernised deviations, liberating true pure Great Russia. Some Russians really believe that. Turns out this "deviation" is the entire Ukrainian nation, tens of millions of humans.

[–] FlyingSquid 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know some brothers who are like that. Maybe a brotherly bond isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Considering that the second story in the bible is about the first brother to ever exist being killed by the second one, maybe it is. /s

[–] volodymyr 4 points 1 year ago

It is just a very unequal brotherly relation. And big brother just cannot accept he is not welcome.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Not brothers like the twins in Breaking Bad. More like Data and Lore.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Jesus Christ. What fucking bond? My fiancée is Ukrainian. They fucking hate Russians. Not just now but always. They tried fucking with Ukraine for forever, even before there was Ukraine as it is now.

This is just weeb shit but for slavic nations

[–] volodymyr 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am ukrainian and I confirm.

There are brotherly ties, relatives, but it's not a healthy family, russians always thought they are the only ones that matter, the rest is deviation.

Now it's so much more clear, ukrainians who were russian speaking and mildly russian friendly now hate russia more than anyone, being bombarded does that, they feel betrayed.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Got a Ukrainian family friend from the east side of Ukraine, spoke Russian as her primary language and knew some Ukrainian.

Once the invasion started, she vowed to never speak Russian again and spent months trying to get fluent in Ukrainian.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't Zelensky (I probably misspelled that) also primarily russian speaking before he went into politics?

[–] volodymyr 6 points 1 year ago

He was, yes. He speaks perfectly now.

[–] volodymyr 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, most of my formerly russian-speaking friends are like that. Tl

[–] BleatingZombie 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I knew a Ukrainian in ~2016 who was SUPER into Russia. He and his family all spoke Russian more frequently than anything else and would talk about Russia all the time. I didn't understand it, but kind of assumed it was the norm. The last couple of years have made me very curious about him

[–] volodymyr 23 points 1 year ago

Plenty of ukrainians speak russian at least sometimes. Even now. Freely. It is possible to speak russian in Ukraine more freely than to speak russian in totalitarian Russia.

Some ukrainians liked russia, most of them stopped. Some might still do, but out of hundreds I know, from east and west, north and south, not a single one does.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I had a weird coworker that claimed to be Ukrainian and is married to a Russian woman. Mysteriously had to go see his dying family member right before it all started and he has not been heard from again. I just feel like he was some kind of weird Russian spy or something. He would call her 10 times during his shift and spoke in Russian and had an air of manipulative "kindness" that made you really wonder what the fuck this guy was involved with.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This is just weeb shit for slavs

New quote unlocked. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hell don't most people around russia detest the country? like even if two countries with slavic influence hate each other they will probably shake hands on hating russia more..

[–] assassin_aragorn 3 points 1 year ago

Russification doesn't leave many friends

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Some Russians have bonds though and are defecting!

[–] fox2263 49 points 1 year ago

That last sentence got me.

I bet they think Israel and Palestine are happy friends too

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately vatniks are too dumb to acknowledge that milk went bad, and will continue to drink it like nothing happened

[–] Bigmouse 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Would you look at that! NATO shat in my pants again"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have an unhealthy fascination with far right shit heads, chief among them Alex Jones. And as an avid listener of Knowledge Fight I can tell you that the predictions once the invasion started didn't just age like milk; Enough cheese was made to feed the entire sub-saharan subcontinent.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Giving that they had been already shooting up each other in dpr the post is a satire

[–] Earthprototype 7 points 1 year ago

A few months later...