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The cops justify needing that because you have an ar15.

I can ask more than one question. They're both valid.

I can ask both. I can even ask if maybe one of the reasons cops have that is that people are more heavily armed?

Because people have ar15s

No one commonly owns AR15s in Australia. None of our cops have this stupid shit.

It's probably because nutters are running around with ar15s!

Own an ATGM for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Police APC column rolls toward my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Stugna-P. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first car, it's dead on the spot. Draw my mortar on the second car, miss it entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the MT-12 mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with APFSDS, "Tally ho lads" the tungsten dart shreds two cars in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix FPV drone and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the more police to arrive since multiple fragmentation wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.

"Because you're allowed to have an AR15"

Zero civilians need AR15s unless they're planning a mass shooting.

Because you have an AR15.

Seems fair to ask both questions.

I think it was in California in the 90s that some guys tried to rob a bank, but they had full body armour and helmets, and were armed with assault rifles and high capacity magazines. The cops were useless against them as all they had were squad cars, pistols, and a few shotguns. It was a huge wake up call for police forces across America and it didn't take long for them to start acquiring better equipment.

If you don't like the militarization of your police, then you need to do something about the militarization of your general populace.

They probably need it because you have an AR15.

Can't I ask both?

I mean… “¿Porque no los dos?” Neither should exist in civilian hands. A MRAP has no use for civilian police nor does an AR15 have any use for a civilian.

But why do you need an AR-15? That wouldn't do much against a tank. Why not get artillery instead? 🤔

Why not ask both?

Maybe because of people like you, armed to the teeth for no rational reason whatsoever?

This highlights a weird side effect of weapons rights. The right to own weapons by the citizens to protect themselves from government tyranny, combined with the need for law enforcement to arm themselves adequately against heavily armed citizens breaking the law, becomes an arms race between the citizens and their country, with whoever is better funded being the winner.

Telling the citizens to drop their weapons doesn't mean the cops drop theirs. Telling the cops to stop arming themselves against citizens just sends them to their death during confrontations.

I suggest we all go play video games instead

Pretty sure the answer to both is little peepees.

why not both?

Wasn't these basically donated because the military had too many? I understand them completely. The SWAT units needs armored trucks, even in Sweden they have Sandcats. The options were these extremely cheap former military MRAPs that are bulletproof, or buy armored civilian vehicles which costs multiple hundreds of thousands.

I'd bark up the tree of military spending rather than the police accepting hand-me-downs.

Probably one is because of the other, dontcha think?

My best guess is that this is just one of many things they were able to grt acceas to using federal subsidy programs. The very famous Obama-era 1033, but also The Department of Homeland Security's "Urban Areas Security Initiative".

We all know that they can be used by SWAT, ATF, etc. When it may be needed - but they also get used to intimidate protestors and violate their rights.