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[–] Gazumi 189 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just bought a new Windows laptop and it was LOADED with bloatware. Some apps could be deleted simply, some however are baked in. Discovered BloatyNosyApp and the partner app Junk Ctrl for W11 on GitHub https://github.com/builtbybel/BloatyNosy

This seems to have done the trick quickly and surprisingly easily compared to DIY powershell activity.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (5 children)

All PCs bought in retail should be wiped and reimaged with a fresh install. At the very best, you install the firmware updates manually or via the manufacturer app but even then I will take a second look before approving.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that only removes OEM bloatware and you still have to deal with Windows bloatware.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bloatynosy removes onedrive, people, microsoft mixed realityportal and such. With just 1 click. I literally just used it now on a fresh windows installation

It also disables telemitry, and a few other things (default "fix" button)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That was the point of the article, it doesn't do the trick anymore, bloatware is now part of the default install.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yes, let's fucking download software from a GitHub repo!

And then bitch how Linux isn't user friendly, because you... might have to download software from a GitHub repo?

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[–] Boozilla 136 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The MBA dickheads took Microsoft over years ago. Engineers used to have some input on features and design, but those days are long gone. I know the term enshittification has been overused, but it applies double to Microsoft.

Tools like ShutUp10 (which works on Windows 11) are the only reason I can bear to use their bloated horrible OS for my job.

Office 365 pissed me off so much I only use LibreOffice now (and it's excellent).

We should all be using Linux, but some folks (like me) are trapped for now.

[–] sturmblast 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

if I didn't work in IT and I didn't play certain video games and I didn't need certain recording software I would be 100% Linux it kind of pisses me off that I can't be 100%.

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[–] Prethoryn 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

Fuck Libre Office and Open Office.

I really hate the, "we should all use Linux" mentality and I see it on here a lot. Let me tell someone who barely knows how to send a fucking file over the internet how to fix their broken repository that decided to randomly break during an Linux upgrade.

Linux and Windows do different things in different ways that make sense in both ways for different reasons. Not everyone should hate Windows or vice versa, Linux, because this entire Lemmy community thinks it is superior in every way.

I get pissed off by office as well but you know what it has some pretty damn good features. It works in the cloud it's easy to sync across my decides.

Windows updates break things but at least MS and Windows has a massive catalogue of fixes and ways to go back.

I love Linux but holy mother of fucking God it is an absolute pain in the ass to fix when it breaks and you expect me to tell my Mom to understand that.

No, we should not all be using Linux because Linux does not work for all models needing to be met. I hate to be that aggressive asshole but Jesus Christ I keep seeing this on Lemmy and it's just a god damn stupid fucking statement. Oh and for fucks sake. If I see, "what kind of Linux system are you using that breaks." Dammit, I have literally seen Linux break in the middle of a college classroom demonstration of just installing it and wouldn't you know it just like Windows it isn't perfect. Get off your high horse people. You don't know something more than the average person because you use Linux or Windows or hell even Unix.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People who "barely knows how to send a fucking file over the internet" can't fix shit on Windows either. I spent a lot more time fixing my mom's Windows install than her Ubuntu.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I spent a lot more time fixing my mom’s Windows install than her Ubuntu.

Small anecdote, roughly in the same line as yours:

As W7 was close to end of life, I asked my mum about it, as her laptop used W7. And after highlighting the privacy nightmare that W10 became, she decided to try Linux out. So I installed Mint in her machine. At the start she asked for help often, but the amount of "pls help" decreased over time. The last time that she asked for help was because she wanted to access "her computer" from her phone, just like I do with mine. (i.e. local network.)

My neighbours though? I often get some spare change from them, by helping them out with their Windows machines. And they're in the same level of tech expertise as my mum, you know, those folks who can download and install a program and not much else.

So I believe that it reached a point where, in certain aspects, Linux is actually easier to use and maintain than Windows. Linux is still full of rough corners, unintuitive design and stupid shit, but at least it doesn't get on your way on purpose because it benefits some business out there.

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[–] subtext 50 points 1 year ago

I’m not gonna comment on the Linux portion because you seem quite passionate, but both Libre Office and Open Office are cross platform apps. So they’ll work just fine with your OneDrive / Dropbox / Backblaze / whatever to give you the wonderful fully cloud synced experience on either Windows or Linux.

[–] ricdeh 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linux is just the kernel and infinitely superior to anything Microsoft has ever produced by itself. Stability and usability issues arise from the distribution that is being used, there are many that are tailored for the average consumer and that are just as simple to use as Windows. People like to forget it, but Android also uses the Linux kernel and is the most successful operating system in the world, with the amount of installed instances dwarfing the amount of Microsoft Windows installations.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (21 children)

ITT: folks who think Linux is too complicated or whatever, but are perfectly willing to jump through endless hoops to work around some of Windows' deliberate hostility.

The Stockholm syndrome is real.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience Linux usually has many more hoops...

[–] Pyroglyph 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've reinstalled both Linux and Windows on the same machine a few weeks ago and it was considerably easier and faster to install Linux. It also had less problems post-install too.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Installing Linux is incredibly fast and easy, yeah. It's everything you try to do after that. Unless you are a regular user and have commands memorized you need to open a browser and go look them up every time you need to do some basic shit. I've been using Linux off and on since 2008 and you just cannot say with a straight face that it is easier than windows.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

folks who think Linux is too complicated or whatever

At one point this was true, but that was many years ago.

Unfortunately, that reputation has kind of stuck.

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[–] Agent641 21 points 1 year ago

Microsoft only hurts me when I'm being a bitch. Its my fault. He's normally really nice.

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[–] madsen 69 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Downgraded my new desktop computer from Win11 to Win10 this weekend. Still considering if I shouldn't just go back to Linux now that Valve has made gaming on Linux viable...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Have you checked if your games are supported on ProtonDB?

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[–] DharkStare 17 points 1 year ago

I'm holding out as long as I can on Win10 for gaming. It's my hope that Linux gaming will be compatible with most of my games by the time I have to choose between Win11 and Linux. Last time I checked there were a few games I was interested in that weren't completely compatible with SteamOS.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (9 children)

When choosing the region/language, choose "English (World)". Boom, bloatware be gone.

You can safely change it to your correct region once you've logged in (Note: the Windows Store won't work until you do).

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the Windows Store won’t work until you do

So just never do it. Noted.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember some 'core' apps, such as Paint and Calculator are delivered via the Store now too - so they'll also be missing.

[–] AdamEatsAss 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll just pirate a version of paint

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Good. Those are easily replaced by FOSS alternatives.

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[–] tabular 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Anyone got a spare Linux CD key?

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[–] chronicledmonocle 27 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Man I don't miss Windows. Gaming, work, etc. all done on Linux here. I don't even use my dual boot anymore. Haven't for months. Probably need to just fully nuke my Windows drive and make it more storage for games.

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[–] Potfarmer 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Been using Windows since XP, watched it get worse with every iteration while getting a shiny new exterior. Was finally forced from Windows 7 to Windows 10 a few years ago and the day Windows tries to foist 11 on me is the day I go fully down the Linux rabbit hole.

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[–] ikidd 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The enshittification started at Win 8 and has picked up speed.

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