313
Yesterday, a Russian Tu-22M3s bomber was destroyed by a UAV, and another was damaged.
(files.catbox.moe)
this post was submitted on 20 Aug 2023
313 points (99.4% liked)
Ukraine
8279 readers
975 users here now
News and discussion related to Ukraine
*Sympathy for enemy combatants is prohibited.
*No content depicting extreme violence or gore.
*Posts containing combat footage should include [Combat] in title
*Combat videos containing any footage of a visible human must be flagged NSFW
Donate to support Ukraine's Defense
Donate to support Humanitarian Aid
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
This is a thing of beauty.
lmfao
is that his brother?
Nice reference
What air defense doing?
What air defense ~~doing~~?
Sleeping
The dumb little thief used most of Russia's massive AA missile stockpile to commit war crimes (bombard civilians) after they ran low of their actual missiles (because they bombarded the civilians so much). They simply haven't got that many left. Also, Ukrainians got really good at finding and destroying the launchers. They have few missiles and fewer launchers still left. The few that are left are in use in the warzone, not 600km behind it.
Source: armchair general with zero actual military knowledge
Lol, Russia Air defense is an Oxymoron
I think they're busy not protecting the boats in the Black sea. It takes a lot of effort to not protect those boats, and they haven't got any spare personnel left over to not protect aircraft.
Meanwhile the soldiers on the ground will have to not protect themselves.
Hell if you're going to be conscripted by Russia then your best help is to get conscripted into air defence because it apparently doesn't involve doing anything.
Good.
Noob question, do the Russians even use their bombers? I only hear about rocket strikes.
Some of their rockets are air to ground, and need planes to launch them.
As neat as it is to see all these drone strikes on Russian resources. I am very concerned of eventual migration to drone swarms on either side. You aren't taking out a swarm easily, it will reach whatever goal it intends. Whatever it may be.
Things like that are true with any new weapon. The C-Ram or the new laser weapon navy has should work well against.
Rheinmetall had video showing their done defense, it was made in 2021 https://youtu.be/pb5_F4_Eod8?t=3s
Conventional ammo is their answer to a modern drone swarm? I thought Rhein was better than that. Like, cool, you took out eight stationary drones. Now do a half mile wide swarm of eighty thousand coming around the ridge at speed.
Idk man, if I was going to try to shoot down a drone, I'd just use birdshot.
And assuming each of the eighty thousand drones costs $200 each including ordnance, that's a very significant expenditure on an attack. And I'm not even sure if it would be feasibly possible given limited bandwidth to control them.
I don't know mate, that's only 16 million. The price of an F-22 is $150 million. Spending a ninth of a jet to win a war by strategically targeting the capital seems pretty cheap to me. Bring it up to the full cost and you have 750,000 drones. You are going to get overwhelmed by drones no matter how much ammo you have. It is too much.
Oh, if you're talking about drones which can operate over long distances you're talking about $20,000 drones, or more expensive. You'd need satcoms and that isn't cheap or lightweight.
I am talking about small commercial drones that act like suicide bombers. They go one way and can be real cheap. Just deploy somewhat locally.
You ever seen a commercial drone?
They'll work wonderfully at crashing into a window and falling onto the cement.
Plus you'd need to be within a very close radius to control it.
Exactly, that's the point. They crash into things and explode.
If you have 750,000 drones, they don't all need to be that accurate. Some are distractions, others carry explosive payloads. I have built drones. They can be done relatively cheaply. Bigger drones that carry more weight will cost more, sure. However on a military budget it is all just peanuts. You can get more range out of a drone than most people realize if you have the right antennas for it.
You could also have mothership drones that guide short range drones.
They won't cause any damage. They're just a bunch of thin pieces of plastic and a camera.
They are explosive, all they need to do is find a target. Wars tend to fail when the leadership has all been assassinated.
More expensive and less useful than you might think.
Tech gets cheaper each year and software becomes more advanced. You don't need wireless control when each drone can autonomously navigate to and identify a pre-programmed target.
The block II tomahawk cruise missile had that 40 years ago. That image processing and satellite communications capability is available in modern smartphones.
It isn't conventional ammunition. Not at all.
They move much slower than missiles, there videos where people were able to shut them down with regular weapons (you don't see that with missiles) so why automated system using conventional weapons wouldn't be effective?
You aren’t taking out a swarm easily, it will reach whatever goal it intends. Whatever it may be.
I would think the future of defense against drones is directed energy weapons.
An EMP might work, but you then lose all your nearby electronics. Doesn't help for a second wave though. I can't imagine EMPs are easily reusable.
I would be interested to see what a directed energy weapon might look like.
- Laser
- Plasma
- Microwave
Slava Ukraini!