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[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know how anyone can genuinely believe that Republicans are for small government and say the competition is good when they're using government to stifle competition.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you know nothing you'll believe anything.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Follow that with "Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities”... and you start to get a feel for the playbook the GOP is using

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (5 children)

These backward-ass clowns are going to be the bane of this world.

[–] mriguy 6 points 1 year ago

I would have gone with backward ass-clowns, but both are good.

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[–] Treczoks 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"This law was bought for you by Big Oil and the Koch Brothers"

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (8 children)

“We’re moving so fast to electric vehicles, we’re just making the problems worse,” said state Rep. Jim Gooch (R), the longtime chair of Kentucky’s House energy committee. Those problems are multiplying, he added, as public officials look to electrify government fleets — especially transit systems and school districts.

“I certainly don’t want to put my kids on a school bus that’s electric. I just don’t want to do it,” Gooch said. “And I’ll fight in any way I can to make sure that that’s not something Kentucky’s doing.”

What? Why would you not want your kids going on a bus that has zero exhaust? School busses that use diesel straight smell like crap and it's absolutely hot af in the south. After reading this quote I was like, this world is so fucked.

[–] TokenBoomer 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] aegis_sum 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He said he just doesn't want to, ok?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Kentucky

That explains everything

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the city where I live, almost all public transport buses are electric. Honestly for a bus it's so much better than diesel, they're quiet, don't vibrate and ride much smoother

[–] soEZ 5 points 1 year ago

They can also leverage regen due to constant stopping, don't get high drag penalty due to low speeds, etc. seems like good application for EV. Makes no sense as you said.

[–] pottedmeat7910 7 points 1 year ago

There's a guy who is definitely has a hoard of incandesant light bulbs in his garage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

To add to that, does anyone here remember those bus fire drills that you had to do once a year?

I remember having to walk a quarter mile away from the propane buses in case they blew. Much more boomy than the diesel or gasoline buses which would only burn you to death!

[–] ArchmageAzor 5 points 1 year ago

I'll tell you why; because oil lobbyists paid him to be against EVs and he has no actual reason to be against EVs.

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[–] phoneymouse 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck this shit, but also did anyone else do a double take when they read this?

“It’s a barrier to adoption,” said Albert Gore, executive director of the Zero Emission Transportation Association, a trade group.

I had to look him up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh no sir, I must say you're wrong. I'm Gal Bore, absolutely no relation whatsoever to the very handsome former vice president.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Supporters say it ensures every driver pays their fair share. But the fee is nearly double what an average driver would pay in taxes at the pump, according to consumer advocates.

Sounds like the foundation for legal challenges from EV manufacturers.

[–] PunnyName 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (35 children)

Can we just invest in public transit while taxing the fuck out of personal vehicles as well as cease subsiding oil, ffs?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I live in one of these states that charges $100 for hybrids annually. Annoying as hell but I save so much on gas that it's worth it. I get the argument that gas taxes pay for road maintenance, but this whole thing isn't going to be sustainable in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The taxes should probably be based on some combination of usage and gross vehicle weight. People driving more with heavy vehicles ought to pay a larger share of road maintenance. A gas tax somewhat handles this since people with larger vehicles who drive more will use more gas.

But the gas taxes don't even cover all of the money spent on maintaining/upgrading the roads. Roads are very expensive especially when you have these large highway interchange projects. We should really be trying to get people away from driving cars and onto transit, biking, walking etc. as much as possible

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[–] SCB 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

State lawmakers imposed the new fee on EVs this spring to replace gasoline taxes lost to the switch to battery-powered vehicles

This is a good thing, but poorly-implemented. Should instead be tied to mileage driven.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some function of axle weight and mileage would probably be the best combination

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Or recognize the roads and related infrastructure as a public good and use general funds to pay for it instead of leaning into a user pay model.

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