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[–] tone 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The dairy industry receives tens of billions in federal subsidies each year, and then dumps $100 million back on congress to solidify their position and earn even more favorable treatment from Congress. Really nasty system we have.

[–] TokenBoomer 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The system must be pasteurized…

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[–] reddig33 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You can declare war on it all you want. It’s not going away no matter what it’s called. Seems like a real waste of money to be arguing about it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's modern capitalism 101. Can't beat them on the market? Start filing frivolous lawsuits until your competition collapses under the weight of legal fees even if they win every case.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if they can kick down at it, slow it down, and force all the brands to rebrand and rename their products, they might scare some people away from it for good and just make others ignore it due to confusing or unfamiliar naming.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you're giving people much credit. The fact they accepted these drinks as it is to begin with speaks a lot for habit

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Don't know about you, but I'm not going to start buying liquid milked from a cow, and stop buying liquid that was milked from a bunch of almonds, just because cow-milkers won't let almond-milkers say "milk". The non-dairy producers will just get creative and name their stuff something else, like Malk

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or melk which is milk when pronounced with a couple of us accents

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My wife does that. I find it mildly irritating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Same, and pellow instead of pillow. I pronounce things weird too which she calls me on so it's all in good fun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I pronounce it 'millik' just for fun.

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[–] frickineh 7 points 1 year ago

Oh dang, I kind of want to buy Malk just because it's fun to say. It's like how every time I buy those frozen fake beef tips (Gardein? idk), we pronounce be'f as beff (rhymes with Jeff) and it makes me laugh. Gonna have some beff and malk for dinner. Advertisers have such an easy job with me, stg. Just make something good and call it something stupid and I'm in.

[–] billiam0202 4 points 1 year ago

Milque. Or Milq if there's a "How do you do, fellow kids?" type on the naming committee.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Dairy industry can fuck right off!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Big dairy's collusion with the US government is a much deeper issue than anyone suspects.

Here's a good read on it, I wish everyone knew about this:

https://www.pcrm.org/news/news-releases/doctors-denounce-government-partnership-pizza-hut-push-cheese

tl;dr The US government is partnering with food manufacturers (and Pizza Hut) to increase the amount of cheese in products in order to prop up the dairy industry.

When it comes down to "can oat milk be called milk?" I think the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

FWIW - I consider myself "lactose ambivalent". I'm not intolerant. :) It just doesn't occur to me to buy dairy most of the time.

I do enjoy Oat Milk, I wish it didn't have as much sugar in it as it does. :( It really doesn't like me though!

[–] Chickenstalker 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US FDA is a captured organization. The familiar food pyramid was hogwash designed to support the grains industry and led to the obesity epidemic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

When I was a kid it was the 4-4-3-2 plan...

4 servings of fruits or vegetables.
4 servings of breads or grains.
3 servings of milk.
2 servings of meat or protein.

https://i0.wp.com/the-avocado.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Scan10230a.jpg?resize=720%2C988&ssl=1

[–] Astroturfed 5 points 1 year ago

Something I think gets glossed over by most folks is inflation figures effect on food. Things in the inflation index consumer basket, always subsidized. If the government didn't manipulate the price on these items they'd have to pay out more in pensions and social security payments.

Everything that effects inflation figures is subsidized. Corn gets to double dip. It's in so many good products and they make gas with it. Our corn is so subsidized that other countries don't allow it to be imported.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it obviously doesn't confuse consumers: no one thinks you can milk an almond. It's just another way for a big business interest to try to push an agenda

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

looks through this thread

Apparently many seem to think just that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No way, the dumbass who didn’t read the package (that says non-dairy cheese right on it) is not a reason to let the government prop up a big agribusiness. Should the vegan cheeses not be allowed to put a picture of their product on the package either for when people decide not to read the package?

[–] drekloge 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I get it. There's the old Lewis Black rant that you need a tit for "milk" and no one wants to drink something called "soy juice." But I think that letting plant-based alternatives label themselves as "milk" allows them to compete in an arena where they are a tiny fraction of sales.

Plant-based milk often uses much less water than animal milk.

TLDR: Oat milk is fukken awesome and also like the one thing my kid isn't allergic to.

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[–] Veedem 7 points 1 year ago

Just call it a milk substitute and be done with it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Finally an excuse to use one of my favorite memes!

A convo between an angel and God about milk

[–] TokenBoomer 2 points 1 year ago

This is a hilarious thread, congrats gang

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just call em like a see um

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