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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I get the desire for a centralized location but I was hoping Lemmy would be the spot. Forums just seen so fragmented, it's nice to go to one place to see all the discussion instead of having several subpages which honestly have little action. https://lemmy.ml/c/jellyfin seemed like the best replacement for r/Jellyfin

[–] peregus 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I totally agree with you! Why didn't they just hosted their own Lemmy instance???

[–] ericjmorey 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy's moderation tools are severely lacking and they seemed to want to get away from the rank by voting system and the churn created by older but relevant and active discussion being hidden on Reddit and Lemmy.

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[–] ElectroVagrant 7 points 2 years ago

Probably for similar reasons as to why they moved from Reddit. Also configuring their own instance to approximate a traditional forum would honestly kind of undermine the whole point of using Lemmy or the like to begin with (at least imo).

I understand the sentiment of wanting them to to make their stuff easier to follow & post to from here and other places in the Fediverse, but from what they wrote, I get the sense that this format simply isn't what they were ever looking for in terms of fielding discussions/questions. Their move to Reddit was more of a compromise for where they were at with the project at the time, but now that Jellyfin's more developed in terms of the software and community, a forum is a more workable prospect.

[–] TurnItOff_OnAgain 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My gripe with old school forums is that there isn't really any threading for comments. Makes it hard to keep up with things

[–] grue 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Some forums have nested comments. It depends on the software.

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[–] SidneyGrant 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Congrats, that’s the kind of mentality that will make me move from Plex to Jellyfin tomorrow evening :)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I couldn’t be happier having made the move off of plex to jellyfin a couple years back. Plex is basically dead to me since they made their move into enshittification. Jellyfin is perfect! Works great never crashes etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm out of the loop, what's going on with plex?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

As the others said below, a while back (several years at this point I think?) they decided that instead of improving their core product, they were going to move the entire business model into a really shitty version of free streaming apps. Like the ones that come preloaded on "smart" tvs full of ads and tracking.

They had an extremely long laundry list of bugs and feature requests from LONG TIME users (like me) but decided to ignore them and instead completely destroy their apps with shit.

All the sudden you login to your plex app and it's FILLED with all sorts of content you have no idea where it came from - it's not on your server, etc...

Which is all just sad, because as time passes, they'll just die off and be looked at the same as any other free shitpile streaming app full of ads, instead of what they once were: a really good home media library manager.

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[–] pleb 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Is there something similar to plex shares for Jellyfin? That's the only thing holding me back.

[–] Meuzzin 3 points 2 years ago

Yes. That's kind of the point of it... think Emby, but some of the Emby devs didn't wanna sell out, so they made their own open source version...

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[–] decentralized 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone who had to Google a bunch of docker issues and constantly got redirected to locked down subreddits, I'm all for developers hosting their own communities. At least then they have an incentive to keep the communities alive.

[–] MicroWave 30 points 2 years ago

Good for them. Using Discord for development work has never made sense to me.

[–] possiblylinux127 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Only one question remains: will it federate

[–] vividspecter 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was just thinking that common forum software implementing ActivityPub would be a great way to link all of these disparate web forums that are still active and have useful content.

[–] possiblylinux127 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They honestly should use a modified version of lemmy

[–] Smokeless7048 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The problem is a forum Is genuinely different than a Reddit/Lemmy board, where each forum thread can remain indefinitely alive and useful, while a reddy/Lemmy post is designed to decay with time.

It would have to be heavily modified

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[–] ThatFunnyGuyver 4 points 2 years ago

Yes, yes, yes, please yes! Let it use the ActivityPub protocol, it'll be so epic pogchamp, fire lit fam 🙏🏻

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jellyfin is a fantastic platform and I really like to use it!

It's given me a second renaissance of "cutting the cable" in this streaming no-ownership era

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Yes! I finally just set up a dynamic DNS so I could get my music away from home.

[–] Ungoliantsspawn 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hooo, time traveling to the 90s I see. Very vintage

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah it's a pity they didn't set up their own lemmy instance, that way every other lemmy instance could get the content...

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Sweet. I'll probably never use it :(

[–] PriorProject 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also being discussed in the Jellyfin Lemmy (which has some unofficial dev participation): https://lemmy.ca/post/749294

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[–] Prevail90 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But can you make a lemmy.world feed as well. Having one place to go for everything is better than 100 places.

[–] dustyData 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that's the point. They are not in 100 places, they are in one. If you want support about Jellyfin, you go to Jellyfin. It was always kind of stupid with Reddit.

I need support with Jellyfin, so I go to Google, write my query, add Reddit at the end, go to result that may or may not be related, try to discover the difference between the 3 or 4 different but related subreddits to find out which one is the official. Discover that none of them is. Find another sub about cutting cable. There's a vague answer that's similar to your issue but not exactly. Maybe try asking them directly on Twitter.

Now you just go to jellyfin.org and the forum is right there, search there for your issue or write your answer. All in one single official place that is looked at and maintained by the very same team. It's just better overall

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[–] ericjmorey 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I wish they would have chosen to use software to maintain threading in comments and I'm not sure that Discourse really gamifies it's posts. After a quick look at the interface of myBB, I can say that I personally prefer Discourse. But I think non-accelrated-time-decaing forums are way better than Reddit for things like a project hub. I think what I liked about having many of my interests in on Reddit was the context switch for a topic often didn't require a context switch in interface to benefit from the network effect of many people participating in the topic.

But at the end of the day, knowing where to get quality assistance and casual discussion about a topic or project is all I'm after. Reddit has been a place to find what I was after, oftentimes as a signpost to find where people are gathering. And now the threadiverse is providing that function much better and sooner than I expected despite its many shortcomings.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

nice switching back to good oll forums

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think this is going to happen a lot

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

This would have been better if they had created a Federated platform so we could subscribe to it from here. I'm tired of using a dozen apps to do basically the same thing.

[–] NSA_Server_04 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not really the direction I foresaw for this, going to be a big mess of trying to find helpful info n all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is heaps cool. For some reason I read it as Jellyfish are moving away from reddit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

the migratory pattern of jellyfish is fascinating

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Woohoo!

Also, time for them to start posting to Mastodon!

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[–] HiddenTower 4 points 2 years ago

I think it's cool they are using myBB, I'm a big fan for that style of community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Nice. I know most here are used to how Reddit structures their content, or are on the federation bandwagon. Personally I'm just happy to see the internet get a little more decentralized.

On a related note I should set up and play around with some old school forum software. It's been a few years since I've looked at it.

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