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[–] bampop 8 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago) (1 children)

Ironically, what Musk posted is perfectly acceptable ( in and of itself, ignoring the context of the person who is saying it ) since violence or the threat of violence is sometimes necessary to prevent things getting worse. For example, "Ukraine should be helped to defend itself" is a call for violence.

Which is why it's such a bullshit excuse to ban speech for that reason alone. I got banned for suggesting France might help out the USA by shipping over any surplus guillotines. I'm sure they would have no issue at all if I were enthusiastically advocating genocide. Never mind, I needed a push to make the move to Lemmy ; )

[–] [email protected] 4 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

The line is state sponsored violence, generally. Likely with a little bias on what state is on the giving and receiving ends of said violence. Thats the rule at least so far as I can tell, at least.

[–] bampop 1 points 47 minutes ago

I think you're right, but that's even more concerning. A fully fascist take on what is acceptable speech.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

The oligarchy owns 90% of social media so it's no surprise

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

reddit mods are soft, i got banned too. They might need to grow a pair.

[–] buzz86us 5 points 1 hour ago

Yeah i don't post anymore since reddit turned into 1984

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Oh fucking hell he's a megalomaniac he's awful!!! Horrible man. How the fuck can reddit justify this shit? How has EVERYONE not left?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 hours ago

Elon Musk ~~'s assets~~ should be liquidated

Fixed that for you

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

What do you mean by Elon Musk’s assets should be liquidated?

Also, Reddit and X have very different moderating policies.

[–] jaybone 3 points 3 hours ago

What the hell even is this?

[–] El_Azulito 18 points 6 hours ago

God, what an insufferable Nazi cunt.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Says the pussy who backed down from Zuckerberg cuz his mom told him to

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

It's good to be the king.

He doesn't have to be the one actually inflicting the violence on others, but with his power and influence he is capable of great violence by making others carry it out in his name.

Fucking billionaires... :/

[–] blady_blah 9 points 6 hours ago

This feeds into the right-wing fantasy that they're super tough warriors. You see a lot of literature and fictional TV aimed in this direction.

It's kind of like the white savior complex but instead of saving some victimized minority, they're saving weaker and more helpless individuals in their own society. But all the military hero returns home and confronts nasty biker gang or evil drug dealers and kicks their ass without when trying. It all reinforced their world view.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 hours ago

He is such a teenager. It's embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 hours ago

#stonerthoughts

This should show Americans how billionaires perceive "peaceful protests".

[–] udon 9 points 7 hours ago

Apart from all the other bullshit rightfully called out below, this makes an illogical implication. Being the smart autistic superbrain Melon claims to be, it's surprising he doesn't see that. Or maybe not, because in reality he's just a sad ass who is too scared of just going to therapy.

If: Not being capable of violence => Not being able to call yourself peaceful

Then: Being able to call yourself peaceful => Being capable of violence

But not: Being capable of violence => Being able to call yourself peaceful

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 26 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

That makes no sense. You can totally call yourself peaceful if you are peaceful.

Who doesn't want to be harmless? Who would want to cause harm????

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You're just not alpha enough to understand. Real men beat their wives

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 7 points 9 hours ago

Hey, I can beat my wife, sometimes. Like I have won many games of Catan over the years.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Elon isn't capable of anything resembling violence. He's a skinny fat pussy.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Well they do have a point. Having strength isn't the same thing as using it. Most have the ability to beat another human to a pulp but instead use their words and other forms of conflict resolution. So to extend that logic one isn't peaceful if one doesn't have the power not to be; that is one isn't restraining themselves from being violent and exercising benevolence and patience but rather being forced to be tolerant of others bullshit because they can't do anything about it. It's like is your chastity being tested more in a monestary or a whorehouse?

[–] o1011o 3 points 4 hours ago

That's how they get you, with a nugget of truth that in your context is reasonable and in theirs is explicitly unreasonable. The idea that one can't choose peace if they have no choice is an old one and philosophers have been thinking about it for ages. There's nothing wrong with the idea. What's wrong is that in the context of the alt right they imagine themselves as John Rambo and use nonsense like this as wank material when they're advocating for (or doing) violence. It's a story they tell to infantilize and invalidate the left. If we're all babies who couldn't even choose violence if we wanted then they should make decisions for us, right? Including the decision to kill us.

Funny thing is that the left got most of the rights and protections that people of every stripe benefit from through outright violence. Strikes and protests and all that are the compromise, remember.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Arguing for the appropriation of billionaires' assets is not violence.

[–] ignotum 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

But it hurts their feelings 😢

[–] [email protected] 1 points 37 minutes ago

oh no! Anyway...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

That’s gotta be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read.

[–] IndustryStandard 17 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The crux of fascism is making your base paranoid. Make them believe all their murder is done out of self defense. If they would not kill all those other people, others would kill them.

The perfect example is the paranoid ethnostate in the middle east.

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[–] shalafi 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, but I agree with this one. Not the "great" violence part, but yeah. If you are not capable of inflicting violence, you are not making a choice. You have no choice but to be harmless.

We used to say this a good bit in r/liberalgunowners, along the lines of, "I am a peaceful man, but that does not make me harmless." You would have a hella time pushing me hard enough to draw, but I have the choice if it comes to that.

This notion is exactly why conservatives think they can run roughshod over us. They see us as harmless little twerps that couldn't fight back if our life depended on it.

[–] Benjaben 2 points 5 hours ago

As a lefty gun owner, couldn't agree more. Peace as a choice is only available to the folks who know how to do otherwise, and frankly even simple know-how isn't enough. Pacifism is no virtue, peace is no natural state.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

Also Elon, " Mom, Mark is being mean to me again." It's ok lil Elon, she says. You are funnier and more handsome.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

This isn’t /shittyphilosophy or some sort of personal mantra, this is signaling what he thinks of those who do not engage in violence against him. He’s simultaneously calling out everyone for being weak and not challenging him and more importantly to himself implying he is strong because of that lack of resistance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

It's more why should you respect and be patient with someone who can't do a thing against you if you aren't? Say you met someone on the street and they decided to start insulting you. The natural response is to punch them in the face to ensure they don't insult you further; except if they are stronger or have some other reason for you to respect them and put up with their bullshit (ex. Elders, martial arts sensei, some kind of community leader, etc.).

The response to a peaceful protest is similar. So long as they don't insult one's honor or get in the way they don't get a punch in the face, except if they wield enough political clout. You don't have power to be peaceful unless you can fight back.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I am worried that this could be bait. Elon can see that the entire world is turning on him, but if violence escalates then Trump could use it as justification to declare Martial law.

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[–] andros_rex 116 points 14 hours ago (10 children)

This is the same kind of thing the 19 year old high school dropout with two kids he doesn’t have custody of posts on Facebook. Like “the devil whispered in my ear you can’t handle the storm and i said i am storm”

[–] [email protected] 109 points 14 hours ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago

Honestly the worst thing about this is that he has the confidence to be as big of a douche as he is looking like this..

Most people need to be supermodels to be as intensely unattractive in literally every other way as he is..

But then he’s not appealing to the general population, he’s appealing to.. well not regular human people…

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[–] mojofrododojo 35 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

when did Lemmy become the "I got banned from reddit" frontpage?

ffs people, STOP GOING THERE. Stop thinking about it. It's a shithole url. Get over it.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

This sub, the one you are currently participating in by commenting on it, is titled “Reddit”…

[–] Famko 22 points 11 hours ago (10 children)

I'll be a bit pedantic and say that this is a community not a subreddit, since we're, y'know, not on reddit.

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[–] taanegl 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

George Orwell entered the chat.

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