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Summary

A father whose unvaccinated six-year-old daughter became the first U.S. measles death in 10 years remains steadfast in his anti-vaccine beliefs.

The Mennonite man from Seminole, Texas told The Atlantic, "The vaccination has stuff we don't trust," maintaining that measles is normal despite its near-eradication through vaccination.

His stance echoes claims by HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr., who initially downplayed the current North American outbreak before changing his position under scrutiny.

Despite his daughter's death, the father stated, "Everybody has to die."

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[–] tomkatt 13 points 1 day ago

Should be up on manslaughter charges. What the hell man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Son of a bitch killed his kid.

[–] inclementimmigrant 57 points 2 days ago

Dude has to cope this hard to justify how he and his family killed their daughter.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He does not deserve to have kids.

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[–] flop_leash_973 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Despite his daughter’s death, the father stated, “Everybody has to die.”

Jesus, I can't imagine being so into cult beliefs that I would have that attitude about my own kids, and actively work to make it happen sooner to boot.

I mean sure, we all will die, but it goes against the most basic biological imperative of all living things to make sure their kids outlive them. Must be some strong Koolaid. Dude needs to fuck off with that Jonestown-isque mindset.

[–] TheBeege 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, in Judeo-Christian tradition, there's the story of Abraham willingly sacrificing his son to Yahweh until Yahweh stops him last-second. This kind of behavior is explicitly taught: nothing is more important than sky-daddy's whims.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

yeah, it's almost like theistic religions are a stupid idea :D

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What a fucking idiot. He should be locked up for murder.

[–] IhaveCrabs111 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He seems quite content with his daughter dying as long as he doesn’t get tricked by the vaccine crowd. What a winner.

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[–] wildcardology 40 points 2 days ago

everybody has to die >

But not that young and not from a preventable disease.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Translation: my beliefs mean more to me than my dead child ever could.

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[–] Subtracty 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Stuff in it that we don't trust."

Better to be dead than injected with chemicals that might make you autistic? Gay? A liberal? What could possibly be in the vaccines that would be worse than your child no longer existing?

As a parent, I am so angry. How can you look at your child and be more afraid of the lesser outcomes (not that they even exist, but still) and choose death? What a failure of the parents. And shame on every single person in the media that let this bullshit spiral out of control. That poor girl.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

What could possibly be in the vaccines that would be worse than your child no longer existing?

The article says the man is a Mennonite, which means he probably believes in an afterlife. In his mind his child still exists and he'll get to see her again when he passes and spends eternity there.

I pretty firmly believe that afterlife beliefs account for a pretty significant distortion of values in people and helps explain a large number of frankly insane behaviours. Preventing deaths becomes much less important when there's an eternal paradise waiting for you and the "real" risk is doing something that bars you from going there.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago

This shit ought to be considered negligence and reason to at least remove any other kids from the home. Poor six year old was failed by her family and the state.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sadly now that she's dead he has no choice but to defend his stance, because admitting the truth would mean being left with the knowledge that he killed his own daughter.

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[–] [email protected] 269 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

It takes a special kind of crazy to say vaccines have untrustworthy ingredients over the dead body of your unvaccinated child.

Mennonite man

Ah... right okay.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Ah yes, the Electric Amish.

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[–] RymrgandsDaughter 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What happened to pro life 💀? oh wait it's Texas

[–] nodiratime 2 points 1 day ago

Nothing? It's always been just pro birth/anti choice.

[–] Tronn4 71 points 2 days ago

Hope he told his daughter she had to die to make liberals cry

[–] Coreidan 133 points 3 days ago (9 children)

“I don’t trust science so I will choose death instead”

Fucking brilliant people. No doubt they are Trump supporters.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this a case of total brainwash, or just a case of a parent who didn't want his kid? Measles seems like a socially acceptable form of post-birth abortion today.

[–] RedAggroBest 8 points 2 days ago

He's a Mennonite, pretty sure they've been opposed to what basically counts as modern medicine for a long time. The Old Order ones live similar to the Amish.

[–] Doctor_Satan 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"The vaccination has stuff we don’t trust"

I would bet money this man could not name a single ingredient in a measles vaccine.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Just fuckin chuggin that koolaid

[–] evergreen 102 points 3 days ago (4 children)

So basically he'd rather they just die than live with "stuff we don't trust". If "everybody has to die", then why care about what's in a vaccine in the first place? Extreme cognitive dissonance to support an ideology.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 days ago

You know what else has stuff I don't trust? The fucking measles.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

I bet he'd be more upset if his son died, not his daughter

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I suppose doubling down on being an utter useless fool is still easier on the ego than owning up to having negligently murdered your own daughter.

So he's a coward too. Lovely.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Magical Sky Daddy logic strikes again

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[–] capt_wolf 72 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

Yeah... You totally can't trust a vaccine with 97% efficacy and a negligible mortality rate that's existed for over 80 years versus an extremely infectious virus with a 40% mortality rate and no effective treatment or cure... If only there were extensive scientific studies on these things that were easily and freely accessible to the public! Why do we have to live in such a dark and uninformed time!?

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[–] thingAmaBob 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (21 children)

He's Mennonite. They don't believe in any English medicine/science. If someone dies, it's God's will.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'll never understand the position. If a deadly disease is God's will, then so is the vaccine which prevents it.

Mennonites have no problem using blades to cut their hair, wearing glasses when their vision is faulty, or using soap after wiping their ass. Why are they against medicine?

[–] A_Random_Idiot 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because they don't like it, and like all religious groups... if They don't like it, then its against gods will. And if they like it, then it is gods will.

Which is why god hates vaccines, but loves child rape and wife beating, at least for these Amish-type religious communities. (and probably most of the republican party....)

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[–] ConstantPain 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] MehBlah 53 points 3 days ago (9 children)

You can only hope one day the asshole realizes he killed his kid and can't live with his failure.

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[–] njm1314 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

He should have died too

Actually no, instead of.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The conundrum here is that admitting his stance was wind would take a level of intelligence that would have had him vaccinate his child in the first place.

I know that's oversimplifying it, but the point still stands.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Obviously his god didn't want him to procreate.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Stuff, you say. I'd wager this fool knows nothing at all about this supposed stuff.

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