I use this all the time on my Jellyfin
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I just moved to jellyfin instead of using Plex on my NAS, and I'm so glad that I did.
Bluh. I installed both but went with plex because it was a super easy setup. I'll take another look at jellyfin.
Also question: can I access stuff remotely via phone like with the plex app without any additional configuration?
Not without additional configuration. You’ll need to forward jellyfins port in your router and get a dynamic DNS address. That’s not hard to setup though and there are good free dyndns providers like duckdns.
Don't expose Jellyfin to the internet
Why not? Have had it accessible via the Internet for 4+ years without incidents
What makes you so sure you haven't been breached? There have been major security flaws over time.
This should not be downvoted. You should not expose anything straight to the internet unless you know what you’re doing. Use a simple service like Tailscale to create a locally accessible VPN.
"Know what you're doing"
And
"Forwarded a port to jellyfin"
Surely has some overlap. You want to open other ports, you want to make sure permissions are properly set on the host machine... What else? HTTPS/SSL to avoid someone in the middle grabbing your password and accessing your media?
Regardless, I'll look into tailscale. A VPN would have lots of other uses, as there are other applications I would like to use remotely that I don't want to expose to the internet.
By “know what you’re doing” I mean “understand the consequences”. Anyone can follow a guide that tells them how to open a port on their router. Understanding that in doing so they’re potentially allowing every malicious actor into their home network is not so straightforward.
Well, I do want to actually use it though and have my friends be able to use it just as well.
Tailscale is a great option for this if your user count is low (1-3).
Not built into jellyfin but you can use net bird or tail scale to access jellyfin from anywhere you have those apps without exposing jellyfin to the public
jellyfin has this :)
I have been using Jellyfin for over a year and have never seen this. I’ll have to look later! What client do you use?
SyncPlay.
It's a people icon in the top right in most clients that support it.
Users can set up a group, and other users can then see and join that group. Any media played in the group is played on all clients in the group.
I tried getting this to work on my own server, but it apparently needs web sockets enabled to work, which I’m sadly too dumb to figure out. The button is there and I can see my friend in the group, but when I start something, nothing happens for them.
Why does sysadmin gotta be so haaaarrrrd???
It should just be a matter of forwarding the righ subpath in your reverse proxy.
There should be a page for most reverse proxy setups in the jellyfin docs.
Stop using proprietary software. It will always betray you, sooner or later.
That goes double when a serviceable Free Software alternative exists and you lose little by switching.
That just sounds like use whatever works best at the time and switch as needed. Plex worked well for me for many years. But now it looks like the alternatives have caught up or beat it. That doesn't mean the years I've enjoyed it are somehow erased.
Genuinely surprised how people still stick with Plex at this point.
It's way easier to setup and way easier to get people who are not into tech to use it
Well... Was
Still is by a landslide. Especially when you want to share you stuff with other people
I get the platform and ease of use aspect for sure. It just seems Plex has killed much of the "spirit" of what drives people towards self-hosted media consumption. Those benefits of Plex have waned so much in recent years.
What is the „new experience“? Usually that means enshittification.
It usually comes with a price "update"
There is a beta, you can try it, it looks nice
Have you heard of our lord and savior https://fmhy.pages.dev/ ?
Heck yeah!
if you aren't trying to justify your lifetime subscription what are you even doing with Plex?
I got my lifetime subscription so long ago there weren't any viable options at the time.
And now I just use jellyfin (and occasionally toss them some dollars for dev because its awesome).
toss them some dollars for dev because its awesome
Thanks for reminding me. I should really donate to OSS tools I use more often.
I mean it all cones down to what features you use. For example, my kids live off smart collections, and in Plex you can pin them right to the home screen, and that experience is unified across TVs and tablets. You can't do that yet in Jellyfin yet.
I would absolutely switch if I didn't have kids though. I already tried. So many complaints and we went back to Plex. One day I will switch though when Plex goes belly up or gets bought its an inevitability.
Lifetime plex sub here: Downloads for Offline viewing.
Please Jellyfin, that feature will allow me to transition the whole family away from Plex.
Don’t care that plex is paid for, I’d rather exclusively run Jellyfin instead of both just so others in the household can get their offline video fix while traveling.
it let's you download. you're talking about playback in app, right?
I host a Plex server and only use it to stream video. I don't use any other features built into Plex. I've never had a an issue that I haven't caused myself, and have a dozen people that share my library remotely.
I haven't read about specifics in a long time, but I thought at one point jellyfin didn't support remote streaming, which immediately makes in not an option. At this point it will take something more significant to get me to take the hours required to migrate everything out of Plex to a different solution, but are there any drop dead reasons why I should move now other than not being able to use the watch together feature that I've never used, although I disappointed they removed it, because it's a nice feature?
Jellyfin just does everything I need, and has done for a long time, so I find it funny when all I ever hear about Plex is how it's constantly getting worse like that wasn't always going to happen with a closed source platform.
if it still works for you I wouldn't drop everything and migrate; but the day is coming.
Ah FFS, I use that all the time with my wife while we're an ocean apart.
It was destined to fail. Ever try to add friends on Plex? It’s a shitshow just to find where in the UI to add a friend or accept a request. And you can’t use Watch Together until everyone watching is friends with everyone.
It crashes like crazy anyway. I don’t think it’s worked well for me in over a year.
So what's the alternative? Jellyfin?
Yup! You can do it and works perfectly
It sucks 😞 I use the feature a lot. Luckily you can still use it for the foreseeable future in the web app... But I don't really use the watch together feature on the web app when I use it. They've sent an e-mail which is more confusing. They mentioned the watch together feature was quickly implemented on the current version. (Was it because of COVID? I don't remember) So it means the feature should be relatively straightforward to implement in the new version? Right? Especially since they mention they spent two years rewriting their apps "from the ground up" to enable them " to bring new features to you more efficiently, across more platforms, with much higher quality than ever before"
Also if they developed it from the ground up they could have taken into account the watch together feature to rewrite as well. They either did not want to implement it from the start. Or noticed it wasn't compatible with the new tech they wanted to use in the new versions.
The mail
It was the year 2020. Life had gotten very different, very fast. Then, at the request of a fan named Joe, Plex Labs quickly put in some long hours creating a way for the world to watch together when circumstances kept us apart. It wasn’t perfect, but this experimental feature created human connection in a time when we needed it most. Now, five years later, we are nearing the official release of our new Plex experience that will bring us closer together than ever before. We’ve spent two years rewriting our apps from the ground up to boost our development speed, which should enable us to bring new features to you more efficiently, across more platforms, with much higher quality than ever before. However, this release also means ending support for some features that we’ve grown to love, like Watch Together. Though support for Watch Together will not be available in the new Plex experience for most devices, you can still continue to use the feature in our web app for the foreseeable future. And because we’ve seen your love and tremendous response to this feature, we don’t preclude the possibility of offering similar functionality again in the future, using new tooling. We know that this decision will impact many of you, and we appreciate your support and understanding. Sincerely, Your Friends at Plex
Would be easier to give "support and understanding" if they actually explained why they didn't reimplement it in the new "experience".
Never used it
They already took out the option to watch playlists together like six months ago.