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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26024422

Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC's former chief of staff, thinks the Democrats need a bolder vision.

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[–] TomMasz 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Democrats need a vision, period.

[–] MJKee9 15 points 1 day ago

Vision? How about we start with a pulse?

[–] bitjunkie 9 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (26 children)

No matter, your view on her, it really is time to retire, she is 84.

[–] theherk 54 points 1 day ago

It was time to retire 20 years past. It’s time to give back all the money she stole from her communities with all the insider trading bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't have much hope in the voters. Last time a great challenger came along, Shahid Buttar in 2020, they still elected the geriatric choice. The DNC and Dem voters are the fucking worst. I mean, as long as you pretend the racist, fascist, ignorant, magats on the other side of the aisle don't exist.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Shahid Buttar

This dude fucking sucked. Like I'm glad pelosi got challenged, but he wasn't the guy. I'm much more excited about Chakrabarti. Though that is mostly association with AoC and tabula rasa projection.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Incumbents are hard to unseat.

Especially someone like pelosi who has been around so long.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

You would think that the Democrat's consistent record of utter failure would count for something, but I think it has the opposite effect. The worse things get, the more insecure people feel. Insecurity makes voters risk-averse. Republicans capitalize on that with calls for a return to an American that never really existed. Democrats capitalize on it by making Democratic voters scared of new leadership.

I try to explain it with AIDS as an example. AIDS is a horrible disease, but it doesn't kill you. It just sets you up to die from another opportunistic infection like pneumonia. The fascists are pneumonia, and the neoliberals are AIDS. It's the fascism that kills you, but it's the neoliberalism that was the underlying cause that should have been dealt with.

[–] bitjunkie 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that last line is in the DNC's mission statement

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Oh they acknowledge that Republicans are fascist bigots all the time, they just keep trying to work with them. Always trying to compromise with them instead of voting against them.

[–] LovingHippieCat 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

SF is incredibly liberal, I could absolutely see Nancy losing and finally being forced to retire. Just gotta get people out to vote during the Primary.

Pelosi was elected when she was 41-42. Saikat Chakrabarti is 39, so only a couple years younger than when Pelosi was put into Congress. This is the perfect time for her to be forced to retire.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

SF is incredibly liberal

That's the problem: Liberal = Neoliberal ≠ Left

The rich people who control just about everything LOVE her because her corruption enriches them as it enriches her and her stock broker husband.

The population in general, though? Probably much more progressive than Pelosi and will hopefully be heard this time.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

Good! Fuck that old hag

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They do need a bolder vision.

The older vision is just MAGA-esque billionaire worshipping without the racism.

[–] Ensign_Crab 3 points 1 day ago

Without the racism yet.

[–] RoidingOldMan 12 points 1 day ago

Hopefully a win can gain the democrats some momentum. Pelosi has been around way too long.

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