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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What about if the US is supplying arms to the other side?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

I don't like presenting things as black and white but I also feel the same - if US is no longer part of NATO we should expect them to be in opposition to it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

In a conventional fight Russian forces would be wiped off the Ukrainian map in less than a week. The problem is that nobody dares to engage them now that they are at their absolute weakest. The situation might look very different depending on how much time they get to rearm and the stance that the Americans will take.

[–] Blue_Morpho 12 points 6 days ago

I hate all the posturing. If NATO is so strong, then show it! For 3 years, there have been breathless articles about the power of Nato.

But if the EU can't even supply weapons to Ukraine, then they're a paper tiger. Supply Ukraine, then talk about how NATO is strong.

[–] Kyrgizion 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In a FAIR fight. We all know the Russkis don't do fair. Expect Skripal-like poisonings in order to sow chaos and distrust.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Expect? Russia is already at war with every at least somewhat democratic society, and they just won in the US.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (4 children)

That article mentions β€œnuclear” once.

I believe when facing NATO, Russia would not hesitate to use tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefield.

NATO vs Russia is a completely different conflict without the US in NATO.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

France and UK have nukes too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

France and uk have plenty enough nukes to assure the mutual destruction of russia.

[–] teft 10 points 5 days ago

I don't think russia would use nukes. That would open them up to retaliatory nuking. France and Britain both have nukes and the russian border is a lot more porous and a lot longer than the european ones. Much easier to get a nuke to moscow than to london.

[–] Valmond 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Only if nato attacks, which it won't do as it's a defense pact.

[–] Bademantel 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not saying NATO would but they did intervene in Kosovo. That was not defensive. There's some wiggle room in being a defensive pact.

[–] Valmond 3 points 5 days ago

Fair point, I actually don't know how the USA got involved in Kosovo.