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[–] tdawg 38 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He's already defied court orders. The rubicon has been crossed

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Every time someone says this I can only only think of that tasty sugary drink.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"The functional equivalent of a “judicial strike” is a radical idea without precedent,” he wrote.

“But so is an administration openly contemplating the defiance of court orders. … If court orders can be ignored without meaningful consequence, then courts will be losing cases anyway — and the most impactful ones, where the Constitution’s limits on executive power are at issue.”

Ah, now you've got it, Mr. Coale. Refusing to hear the Executive branch's lawyers isn't gonna do much if they ignore your orders anyway. That's just a fast-track to the courts effectively being meaningless and Trump just dictating what the law is to the Federal Marshalls and local cops. Sure, he'll lose the FBI, he can afford to lose the FBI. He'll probably turn loose all the FBI's tools into the hands of local cops. In fact I'm pretty sure that part was in Project 2025. Giving the local cops massive surveillance powers because they know the 90%+ of local cops are violent pro-MAGA thugs who would gladly murder half of the communities they work in (that they conveniently don't live in).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Psst.

The article itself shows how the administration uses the courts to ensure they get paid.

Their desire to tax us normies harder so they can get richer is gonna be a challenge if they aren't getting paid.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Courts can’t do anything when no one enforces the law

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did you even read the article?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Judges can do whatever they want, Trump will just ignore them because it’s not possible for him to break the law anymore

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

So that's a no.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

These plans only work against targets that obey the rule of law.

[–] MeaanBeaan 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The whole point of the plan, if you were to read the article, is to deal with an administration not obeying the rule of law.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think you get what I meant, there's no way to punish or school this administration because they are trying to be autocrats. The courts don't matter because they have no way of enforcing their rulings without the DOJ (department of justice) which Trump has captured.

[–] MeaanBeaan 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And this guys proposal isn't to punish the administration. It's to make the administration ineffectual by having judges ignore cases brought forward by the administration until the administration complies with other court orders.

For instance. Trump tries to fire a guy. Guy says "no you don't have the authority." Trump says "yes I do. I'll go to the courts and get them to prove you wrong." Courts go "don't care. You're ignoring [some other court order against trump]. We wont hear this case until you comply with the previous order." The result would be that the guy keeps his job despite whether or not Trump can or can't fire him. At least that's this guy's idea to my understanding.

I'm also not trying to say it would be effective or even remotely doable. Just pointing out that criticizing the plan for something it's not attempting to do doesn't make any sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What I am trying to explain to you is that he doesn't care what happens in court, he's an autocrat he'll do it anyway.

[–] MeaanBeaan 1 points 2 days ago

He can't just "do it anyway" if people refuse to comply with his orders and the courts refuse to back him up. What do you think Trump is going to do? Walk over to somebody's desk, pick them up out of their chair, and physically throw them out the building himself?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

Lol it's a good shower thought. It's not going to happen though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Trump deserves to get hammered over hard for the nonesense he’s pulling.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

'Rogue activist judges' was a rallying call for this faction. This is a faction that hates unions and strikes and loves scabs and loves privatization to bypass restrictions applied for the public good.

It'd be a tactic, for sure, but probably not an effective one without such an interpretation being shared by SCOTUS. Which is comically not the case.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Before I read this, I thought maybe the proposal would be to stop hearing cases—period. General strike of the judiciary. Shut down all criminal and civil hearings in protest of the government ignoring its orders.

It's still fantasy, but it would be way more effective.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

this is a great idea!

[–] leadore 1 points 5 days ago

Pie in the sky speculation that ain't gonna happen.