Sorry guys, I'm locking it. It's turning into an international politics thread and I don't have the bandwidth to watch it.
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Oh but they believe it's the LGBTQ community that is destroying the democracy, not a fascist dictator and his billionaire cocksuckers
Actually, the fascist dictator is the one who sucks the billionaires' cocks
I forget where I heard this take but it was describing trump's first election. The broader electorate knew it would be chaotic, that was almost the point. Everyone can tell that the status quo is bad, that things are getting worse for most people. When the options are 'more of the same that isn't working' and 'throw a grenade at it and see what happens' people chose the grenade. Low information voters don't care about Gaza, millions of voters couldn't even tell you what region it's in.
All they knew is that inflation was making everything unaffordable and their pay certainly didn't keep up. Did they correctly assign blame for the economic conditions? Of course not. But when your main basis for voting is just the general vibe and the vibe is bad then you either vote for the other guy or stay home. So yes, people do prefer crisis to stability when stability just means things continue to get worse at a steady pace.
We as a society love solving problems when it's a crisis. It's exciting watching people solve the problems when it's a crisis. It's boring watching people solve problems before getting to a crisis point.
Baseball catches are really great example of this. Watch any clip of "Great catches", it's someone running, diving to catch the ball. Those aren't great catches, the player fucked up reading the play. A great catch is when the player is under the ball standing waiting for the ball to land in their glove. That's boring, so we don't get clip shows of it.
It's the same when it comes to society crisis. We want our leaders to be seen solving the crisis, not preventing it from happening.
100% agree.
That said, I was pretty happy when most of Biden's first term (except the withdrawal from Afghanistan) was pretty silent in terms of political news. I don't really agree with what he did (or rather didn't do) as President, but I liked that I didn't really feel the need to pay attention.
Some of us prefer forgetting that government exists outside of tax and election seasons.
The withdrawal from Afghanistan was about the only good thing he did in his whole career, and libs will never forgive him for it.
Agreed, and once he actually followed through on it, I considered my vote for him justified. If Trump also actually pulled out, I would've been happy with that as well.
I wasn't happy with all the noise in the news about it though. We all knew pulling out would suck, but it needed doing, and honestly, we should've pulled out under Obama.
Then why did you say you were satisfied with everying but that?
I was happy with the relative quiet in the news, except for the noise around the Afghanistan withdrawal. I'm not satisfied with his presidency (he could've done a much better job), but I am satisfied with the lack of drama.
That's what I meant.
This is a perfect encapsulation of privilege. People aren't upset that Trump is doing horrible things. They're upset that he's doing horrible things that might affect them. They want a Democrat who only does horrible things in other countries, so they can brunch in peace.
Starting to really believe in this "Elon used SpaceX Technology to hack voting machines" theory that Donald Trump keeps alluding to.
So, are we gonna have the leftist equivalent of QAnon this cycle?
Turtle Island has been in crisis since the Europeans arrived. The terrorism has not stopped, and has only gotten worse.
Because memes aren't journalism:
Sample 1106 U.S. adult citizens Conducted February 3-6, 2025 MarginofError ±4.2%
MarginofError ±4.2%
That's not too bad, a plurality at least agree, if not a majority.
I feel like some of those who agree honestly believe trump will fix it. Like even if you dont believe it there are 100s of thousand of americans who believe crazy conspiracies like Qanon. I think instead of calling them idiots or brushing them off we need to face this and figure this shit out. No more letting them grow and fester.
40% of them didn't vote.
Americans have been told there is a crisis every fucking presidency for decades. Every election is the most important. Everything is a cultural fight. The president declares some form of emergency every fucking year to disallow certain laws to trigger since the early 90s. And we've seen how the electoral college steals elections.
Fuck the whole system.
We’ve been staving off fascism for decades, so yes, every election has been a crisis. If you've only been paying cursory attention, it may have sounded like we’ve been crying wolf, but if you actually looked up from your daily tasks and paid attention, you’d have seen the actual wolves circling the village.
Now their plotting has paid off and they’ve breached our perimeter. Unfortunately, it’s harder to do something now the wolves are savaging the villagers. Instead of being annoyed with the people who called this and still saying we shouldn’t have raised the alarm, maybe finally join the efforts to do something about it.
e: my autocorrect failed
e2: The influencers at the founding of the US knew the wolves would always be at the door, because the nature of sociopathic demagogues hasn’t changed for centuries.
Benjamin Franklin was asked what type of government the Constitutional Convention adopted, and he said: ‘A republic, if you can keep it.’
Because it has been a crisis for decades lol. They're all extremely important.
Seriously, Trump is not the only cause. He is a symptom of a broken system and is making it worse rapidly. He is like the metastasis of a cancer, but removing the metastasis alone won't cure the cancer. It will just form new metastasis. You have to remove the entire cancer.
If it wasn't for Trump to make the primaries, the alternatives on the Republican side were people like Ron DeSantis, Mike Pence, Ted Cruz... And even Nikki Haley as the supposed "opposition" to Trump only differed on not handing Ukraine to Putin. Otherwise she is the full spectrum of racial and sexual discrimination, destroying the environment, pardoning Trump for his crimes...
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