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The White House is drafting an executive order to dismantle the Department of Education, aligning with Trump's long-standing pledge.

However, Congress must approve the agency's abolition, making its passage unlikely despite GOP control. Critics, including the National Education Association, warn this move would harm students, increase costs, and weaken protections.

GOP lawmakers have repeatedly attempted to eliminate the department since its 1979 founding.

Trump also recently signed an order expanding school choice, reinforcing the Republican agenda of decentralizing education policy.

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[–] Maggoty 10 points 13 hours ago

If NBC thinks he needs an act of Congress then they haven't been paying paying attention to USAID.

Who the fuck am I kidding, they know damn well what's going on and refuse to print it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And the sad part is that a lot of teachers voted for Cheetolini.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

that will... teach them?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Almost forgot Congress was a thing since there's been little to no mention about them in this shit circus

[–] Skyrmir 15 points 19 hours ago

That's by design, they stay silent and don't take the polling hit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago

This CollegeHumor video was 8 years ahead of its time: If the Other Party Wins

[–] cultsuperstar 30 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Keep people dumb. Write their own history to "educate" the dumb. Sounds about right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

For this reason, if you have anything with at least 32 GB of RAM and a GPU, you should get a copy of Ollama and test it out running a local copy of Deepseek. That's going to soon become the best 0 new dollars tool for access to education.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I was going to ask if this means I no longer have to pay back my student loans, but of course I know better than that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Shit is getting done so scattershot, I think there's a really, really good chance that a lot of records are going to fall through the cracks or "fall through the cracks" as different databases are deleted, offices closed, code based altered, and agencies demolished.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Would be funny af if some madlad goes maliciouscompliance and deletes all records on student loans or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

Don’t forget those backups need to also be corrupted or otherwise unrecoverable as well

[–] bitjunkie 9 points 21 hours ago

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Thats the goal.

Evennif somehow there is another election, everything will be too broken to even begin to repair it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Yup. And I thought that the U.K. was a shit hole.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] RubberElectrons 1 points 11 minutes ago
[–] DarkFuture 100 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In case anyone is still wondering if Republicans are enemies of the United States of America, you need not wonder anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Why use big words when small words do trick.

Soon enough, when you have to select a language on a devive, the difference between: english (uk) and english (american) will make a whole lot more sense.

[–] Duamerthrax 4 points 20 hours ago

Is this better or worse then him packing the Department of Education with ideologues?

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt 2 points 17 hours ago

So how is Betsy DeVos gonna siphon money for public schools to provide schools?

[–] [email protected] 288 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (31 children)

Congress is required for all sorts of shit that Elon is doing but that isn’t stopping Elon.

Laws are not some sort of natural force. They are implemented by people and all of those people are either fascists or cowards.

Trumps immunity plus his pardon power make him king. All of his minions can do all the illegal things they want. Trump can then pardon them and he isn’t liable for their crimes if he is doing something roughly in line with his duties are President. John Roberts fucked us all.

The only way this is going to be solved is by people power. Organize. Fight these fascists.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 day ago (12 children)

The executive order’s a symbolic gesture—Congress won’t scrap the Department outright. But the subtext? Steady erosion. Shift student debt oversight to Treasury, pare back civil rights investigations, let federal education funds atrophy. States then fill the vacuum: red ones push vouchers, defund “woke” curricula, blue ones scramble to plug gaps.

The playbook’s transparent. Undermine trust in public institutions, then offer “choice” as salvation. Rural GOP districts take the bait, then recoil when their Title I lunches and special ed services evaporate. Even conservatives quietly rely on federal data systems and grant streams—hypocrisy’s baked in.

Latest school choice expansions? Distraction tactics. Real damage accrues in the margins: disabled students lose protections, civil rights complaints backlog, teacher retention plummets. ED’s survived 40 years of GOP vitriol because dismantling it’s all optics, no payoff.

Predictable cycle. Provoke outrage, let chaos incentivize privatization. Rinse, repeat.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The executive order’s a symbolic gesture—Congress won’t scrap the Department outright.

You're wrong. They will not wait for Congress to do anything.

Who the fuck is going to stop them, you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The courts, actually. Been there since Nixon tried similar stunts. Administrative state's got more staying power than most realize. But hey, doom scrolling's more fun than reading SCOTUS precedents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, the SCOTUS that said anything done by a sitting president is automatically legal? That one?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, you mean the unitary executive theory? That magical interpretation where presidential power is somehow absolute? Fascinating how selective that reading was—worked great for executive orders, not so much for criminal immunity.

The courts have been remarkably... flexible with precedent lately. But even in this twilight zone version of constitutional law, there's still that pesky difference between issuing orders and having them actually implemented. The machinery of state has its own peculiar physics.

Though I suppose when SCOTUS is rewriting administrative law on the fly, precedent becomes more of a suggestion than a rule. Welcome to the constitutional speedrun era.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

They will physically remove people from their jobs if it comes down to it, regardless of the legality of the order. You really don't seem to get it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

We already have precedent for a president ignoring a SCOTUS decision (Andrew Jackson).

Does the Supreme Court have some kind of secret police force that makes sure the other two branches of the government follow their rulings?

In fascism, might makes right, and the person with the biggest guns/army gets what they want, or else they just fucking kill you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Jackson's precedent created a constitutional crisis that haunted executive power for generations. But let's ignore history because "guns solve everything," right?

And no, SCOTUS doesn't need secret police when they have the entire administrative state's inertia. The machine keeps running because people show up, file papers, and follow procedure—not because someone's pointing weapons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Jackson’s precedent created a constitutional crisis that haunted executive power for generations. But let’s ignore history because “guns solve everything,” right?

Eh? Do you think I was agreeing with Jackson (or in this case Trump), or condoning it?

It's just history.

And no, SCOTUS doesn’t need secret police when they have the entire administrative state’s inertia. The machine keeps running because people show up, file papers, and follow procedure—not because someone’s pointing weapons.

Speaking of history, it seems like you need to learn some things (or refresh your memory). Because this is exactly how society has always worked. The majority of human civilization has been this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The executive orders are the start of rule by decree, and as long as the legislative and judicial branches let it happen, he'll get away with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Rule by decree? My brother in Christ, have you met the federal bureaucracy? Even if they published the order tomorrow, implementation would take years of litigation. Death by a thousand memoranda.

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