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Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker has barred Jan. 6 rioters from state employment, countering Donald Trump's mass pardons.

In a directive, Pritzker declared their actions "infamous and disgraceful," emphasizing that government employees must uphold democratic values.

Trump's sweeping pardons included Proud Boys and Oath Keepers members convicted of seditious conspiracy.

The move is expected to face legal challenges, but Illinois officials believe the personnel code provides strong legal footing.

Pritzker, a longtime Trump critic, has also opposed other recent federal actions, including a blocked freeze on federal aid.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter 111 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker blocks Jan. 6 ~~rioters~~ insurrectionists from state jobs after Trump pardons

FTFY

They weren't rioters, they were trying to overthrow an election

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The press never fails to downplay the threat of fascists.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

the press makes more money from fascism

[–] Daikusa 6 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good call, Gov. I've contacted my Gov to ask them to do the same!

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

sounds like we need a D^3^ movement.

  • deny them access to every lever of power
  • delay their every attempt to assert authority
  • depose every one of them for their crimes

no idea where that came from. just popped out of the aether along with a word vaguely shaped like "peacefully" or something - idk. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

edit: word

[–] CharlesDarwin 8 points 2 days ago

Which is as it should be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Heh, this is exactly why the last guy rejected the pardon. He figures it would be harder to get a job. Good foresight

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Right energy, but I'd like to hear legal analysis of this. I'm not sure this is legal.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's a prerequisite for employment. Some jobs require a college degree. Some jobs require a certain amount of experience in the field. Some jobs require that you have not tried to overthrow the government.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Also worth mentioning that a presidential pardon commutes the sentence and ends jail time, but does NOT expunge one's criminal record.
If a j6'er has a felony record from the event,that will still appear on background checks for employment including with state orgs. It's a get out of jail free card, but there are still other consequences attached. That makes it very easy for a governor such as the above to exclude such traitors from holding state positions.

[–] AA5B 8 points 2 days ago

TIL;

https://www.rocketlawyer.com/family-and-personal/general-legal-matters/legal-guide/what-are-the-rules-for-presidential-pardons#:~:text=A%20pardon%20does%20not%20expunge%2C%20or%20erase%2C%20a%20criminal%20record%20or%20a%20finding%20of%20guilt.

A presidential pardon excuses a person who has committed a crime from serving punishment. A pardon does not expunge, or erase, a criminal record or a finding of guilt. However, if any civil rights were lost due to the criminal conviction, those rights will be restored.

[–] Serinus 2 points 2 days ago

Isn't that the difference between a pardon and a commutation? I could be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Being part of an insurrection is not a protected class.

Fully legal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Probably is. I was thinking that with laws they have to be "more general" and that maybe there would be something similar that applied to government employment requirements... I'm starting to think that there probably isn't.

[–] CharlesDarwin 3 points 2 days ago

The law was supposed to prevent donvict from office for similar activities. The least we can do is to apply it to these guys, if we cannot get donvict.

[–] frog_brawler 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Pardoned insurrectionist is not a protected class (thus, discrimination of said class is legal). That still matters at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Who the fuck cares what's "legal"

The laws we have don't apply to the filthiest fascist this country has ever "elected" so why should any of us comply with the so-called laws?

[–] gift_of_gab 5 points 2 days ago

I forget the term, but there's an ideological theory where you only follow laws you think are moral (it's not Moral Law, but close to that, it doesn't need divine/etc meanings behind it). So you don't kill people, because you feel murder is amoral, but you would 'jay walk', or steal from a mega-corporation. If fascists stop following laws, there's an argument that letting them be protected by laws is going to keep them motivated to keep not following them.

Can't remember what it's called, I'm sure someone here will know.

[–] FlyingSquid 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If Trump doesn't give a shit about the law, why should Pritzker?

[–] Snapz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[while it rains flaming shit] "So I'm not actually sure if this umbrella fully meets IP68 waterproofing standards, so I say we all just stand here and take it until someone can confirm otherwise, beyond a shadow of a doubt".

You're here, buddy... It's happening. You're waiting for an official red letter to arrive in the mail while the actual notice was tattooed on your forehead months ago. Start throwing every god damn thing you can grab at it, because you don't know how many levels deep you are in the "first they came for..." this time around.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

GRRR ANGRY RESPONSE MISREADING THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE GRRRR!

Buddy - I'm just wondering if it will hold up to challenges. Back the fuck off.

[–] Snapz 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Reach for that high ground all you want, your musing about semantics on the rule of law while the president, his wife, his son, his son's dipshit friend and the religious grifter who prayed at his inauguration all simultaneously launched and are rug pulling individual memecoins to steal Grandma's grocery money. Ohh... and concentration camp at Guantanamo.

GRRR WAKE UP.

[–] CharlesDarwin 5 points 2 days ago

I've love to see Polis do the same here in Colorado.

[–] Kyle_The_G 3 points 3 days ago

send em' to Guantanamo /s