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The fact that a privacy company based in a non five eyes country is even praising a government - especially one like the US - is a red flag.
Nevermind the fact that they claim Republicans are anti big tech while being surrounded by tech CEOs...
Cancelled my Proton subscription citing this as the reason. Hope others do the same. This administration is not normal and relations should never be normalized with them.
Yep, did the same. Started using Tuta for email, solid privacy and UI, app available on F-Droid, and the bonus for me was them being powered by renewables.
The language in the tweet was telling, i.e party of the "little guys" and tagging the president for visibility. You can't turn a blind eye to all the other destabilizing things this admin is doing just because they made 1 semi-competent cabinet pick (which should be the baseline expectation).
Planning to do the same, but first I have to find an alternative for my mail, probably I will try a self hosted mail server for a while
"We're not liberal or conservative, we're a secret third thing!(conservative)"
They're swiss.
We have more parties in our equivalent of the presidential office than you have parties in total.
I have huge problems with this notion that you have to be either democrat or conservative. They don't even cover 50% of the opinions I, a green-liberal (actual liberal, not US-definition), hold.
You're absolutely able and allowed to have your own opinion different from what any party official says.
When commenting on US politics, they should be aware of US political realities though. When taking position relative to US politics, they should be aware of that. At the very least, they should comment that they're progressive or something along the lines of "Our political orientation isn't represented in US politics" to acknowledge that, like you did.
But when your CEO endorses Republicans, pretending you're neutral isn't a good look.
Don't forget, Swiss Neutrality is the special kind of neutrality that lets them store gold bullion made from Jewish tooth fillings.
They were commenting on American politics though. Swiss parties are irrelevant. Supporting Trump is a crazy position no matter what your nationality is or what parties exist in that country.
Yes but swiss people can still be absolutely piece of shit human beings. They proved that in WWII by helping fund the Nazis directly. Swiss people also aren't immune from rampant US party propaganda. You aren't magical, psychologically different humans than the rest of the world.
Publicly supporting an openly fascist dictator, whatever "political party" they are on, someone who directly opposes the stated mission and values of the company, means that they are piece of shit humans who cannot be trusted with our data because they will just lie with what they do with it just like how they lied to us about their company values.
Saying someone is swiss isnt the defense you want it to be considering that the swiss helped harbor nazi wealth.
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They vote for whoever helps them get paid the most.
Capitalist.
“Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”
I don't believe that they haven't heard of Lina Khan.
Yes, big fan of Lina Khan, I worked with her in 2020 on the House report on antitrust (the House was controlled by Democrats back then). I've discussed this elsewhere, but certain events in 2022 made it very clear that further progress on antitrust was unlikely under Democratic leadership. You can read more about the backstory here: https://time.com/6243256/schumer-kills-antitrust-big-tech-bills/
- proton ceo ( https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/m7psmzx/ )
his reddit account is pretry active if you want to read bad takes
They did, they even worked together in the past.
Quote for those who don't want to reddit.
Yes, big fan of Lina Khan, I worked with her in 2020 on the House report on antitrust (the House was controlled by Democrats back then). I've discussed this elsewhere, but certain events in 2022 made it very clear that further progress on antitrust was unlikely under Democratic leadership. You can read more about the backstory here: https://time.com/6243256/schumer-kills-antitrust-big-tech-bills/
Edit: I see someone else already posted it. I will leave it here even if it's a duplicate for future self-shame.
I'm sure Elon Mush will get rid on that, though.
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This is what a kleptocratic oligarchy looks like folks. Suck up to the big man and he'll let you fleece the joint.
I believe them. They’ll praise whomever is in power. Neutral opportunists.
That's not a good thing though.
Correct. It’s bad, whether the Dems or the GOP are in power. It’s not suddenly bad now.
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I disagree, Mr Website.
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"while spewing right wing propaganda"
FTFY
I may be too Roman, but I will never trust a Swiss.
I’m in a pickle. Got proton and my own domain for email so I would be able to make an easy switch… but now I have masked emails for dozens if not hundreds of account logins.
I've been looking in to degoogling and was considering Protonmail before this. Does anybody know of a good alternative? Espeically one that lets you have multiple email addresses?
Mailbox.org
I bit the bullet this month & bought a domain so I can assign mail handling and change providers without changing my email address. Currently using https://purelymail.com/ because they're $10/year for as many addresses & domains as you want "within reason." It's apparently just one guy with some AWS instances, but it was very straightforward to set up.
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If you only care about email (and calendar, I guess) Tuta is a pretty good choice. I've been using it for years and had only one problem very early on. Additional aliases are only available with the paid plan (€3 a month) however, same as Proton I believe.
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Capitalism -> Fascism
Eww I stepped in shit
Well fuck
Yeah, my two year contact just renewed with them before this happened. fml
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