In general, I think communities shouldn't splinter until there's a need. IMO both efforts should just use [email protected], and title posts in a way that makes the distinction clear. They're both about growing the Fediverse in the end. If and when it becomes too much to keep in the same comm, then you'd split it up. That's just my opinion as an internet rando though π€·
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Having two communities seems better as people busy with keeping their communities active arenβt automatically interested in promoting the Fediverse externally, and vice versa.
Same reason there is [email protected] separated from [email protected] , the intent and type of content are different
Have to agree with Blaze here.
Even though growthefediverse and fedigrow have similar names, they are about quite different things.
Ie. maintaining a lemmy community, vs getting the word out about lemmy.
Spreadiverse
Official spread of the FOSS movement!
Ew
It's quite a lot worse than "fediverse," and "fediverse" was already pretty bad.
I like it, but also sounds like federation porn.
I mean, of the hundreds of communities I've blocked so far, I feel like a solid half of them were furry porn, so honestly that tracks.
Why not literally just here? Growth news are already posted here and the people subbed to this will care about the concept. It's by far the biggest of the lot too.
It's less about news and more about advocacy.
Yes but both in one community makes sense since people who advocate will care about the news and people who care about the news care enough to maybe advocate.
Does Lemmy have the equivalent of Reddit flair? That made some posts easier to avoid or focus on that others.
Obligatory https://xkcd.com/927/
I wouldn't call it anything with just "support" in the name, or I'd imagine you're going to get a lot of tech support questions regarding Fediverse software.
And keep in mind the attention span on the internet is reading half of the title of something. So the topic of conversation has to be very clear from the name alone.
Or maybe you want to join efforts? It's still not clear to me whether both are about the same thing, just on different instances. I think both fedigrow and growthefediverse are good names that make it clear what it's about. What about fedipromotion? or promotethefediverse? But I don't think my ideas are as good...
Honest question: what is the goal here? As a user, I donβt care much about the fediverse as a concept. As a Reddit refugee, I love Lemmy and that is worth promoting as far as I am concerned. I was never into twitter, and mastodon doesnβt appeal to me. But if people want to promote it, go for it. As a techie, the fediverse is an interesting concept, but not one youβre going to get the general public interested in.
Ideal world would be lemmy posts popping up in mastadon so ppl could reply there and I could see it as comments here, I want more users to interact with but not the mastadon/twitter interface
Half of the general public endorses fascism.
Who gives a fuck what the general public is interested in, how do you reach the people who would be interested?
Would be interested in what? Some may be interested in a Pixelfed app, others may be interested in a mastodon app. Those groups donβt necessarily overlap much, and while some may be interested in the fediverse or activity pub, most people just want to know what it can do for them.
Pixelfed could overlap, a lot of posts on art type communities tend to be images with a caption, if you posted there and had it show up in like blender with the comments and likes syncing thatd be nice
One strategy that I'd like to specifically promote is fediverse users calling attention to spaces of the internet where people are talking about the fediverse but there's relatively few users there that can share their experience.
To that end I've been considering things like:
- Fedimigration Reinforcements
- Fedimigration Support Team
Keep in mind that whatever name we pick will also be the hashtag that the Mastodon contingent of this project will end up using. As it stands, they would see posts from this community under #growthefediverse
FYI: there is already a Fediverse Marketing Community as part of https://fediforum.org/projects/. How about joining forces with the people who are already there instead of duplicating effort?
Always a good idea. I'll reach out to them.
I wasn't aware, thanks!
Link to the discussion thread: https://community.nodebb.org/topic/17908/threadiverse-working-group
I think fediverse_migration or fediverse_procelytization is best :) I personally donβt like βfediβ
Thank you for your feedback!
[email protected] is the mis-named one. "To discuss how to grow and manage communities on Lemmy" is not really about evangelizing the whole fediverse to people outside. It could be more outward focused, but if you look at the posts in that community you'll see it's very much not what is being discussed.
I would say it's a different type of growth. A topic that regularly comes up is consolidation of similar communities (the most recent example being [email protected] as the suggested alternative to [email protected] [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected] etc.)
So it's a type of growth, but more internal than external.
Having two communities seems better as people busy with keeping their communities active arenβt automatically interested in promoting the Fediverse externally, and vice versa.
Perhaps, but it's a bit too late to rename an existing and active community.
Fedifriends
fedipromote
fediversepromotion if you feel the need for a lot more letters, but y tho? π
What they are doing is essentially promotion. So that, or something along the line is more appropriate.
I think there is more of a need to make the fediverse feel like a community. Use my account on one service as a automatic validation to any other without requiring a formal sign up. Something like how "login with GitHub" etc. works. If these were interconnected in a low effort and seamless way, the existing community would be less of a walled garden and more of a culture. Posting video, pics, blogs, or even more forum like persistent topic threads should be seamless. In my opinion pursuing growth as a community has small returns. Becoming the most effective tool and the path of least resistance while being positive and stable is the real key to large scale growth. Updating LW is absolutely critical for Lemmy's future IMO and is our weakest link.
These were the thoughts that came to mind after I saw fedigrow. That name was very intuitive.
I've been saying this the entire time I've been here.
You shouldn't have a lemmy account, and a mastodon account, and a pixelfed account, and a peertube account, and a misskey account........you should have 1 account. A fediverse account. One account, you log into and any activity you have on your array of services would go to one account.
So if you post a picture on pixelfed, and a someone says "oh, thats a pretty butterfly!" And then you post a video on peertube about the ghostbusters, someone might reply "Oh, slimer is my favorite". And BOTH replies go to the same notification area, and you canreply from the same page.
F-uni-verse!
I wouldnβt do fediverse support because it sounds too much like lemmy_support
Why confusion? Itβs good there is more than one community! Canβt trust any instance to stay up
Edit: Iβm was yapping and missing the point
The issue is that they have very similar names while being different. I edited the post to make it more clear.
I personally think lemmy users for the most part are technical enough to get that based on the descriptions you two may add. Those communities already have followers right?
I know [email protected] is not gonna censor me like [email protected] is though they βhave the same name.β
Those communities already have followers right?
[email protected] was created less than one week ago
I say use one of the existing ones, making another 3rd community because there's now 2 seems silly.
The new one would replace [email protected]
[email protected] would stay the same. I edited the OP to clarify
I like where you going with it. But if this community here is thriving, I wouldn't suggest changing it because you'll lose people in the transfer.
this community here is thriving
Which one? [email protected] , [email protected] or [email protected] ?
GoDiverse ...!
Fediversal.
in order to promote the growth of the fediverse, we want to merge these two communities from two different instances into a third one.
Feels weird.
No, we want to keep [email protected] on its current instance with its current objective.
The question is about the other one, which is about promotion of the Fediverse rather than growth of communities already here
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