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[–] DreamlandLividity 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago) (1 children)

What the fuck. How did journalism get this utterly fucked?

Experts point to a phenomenon called jury nullification, which occurs when a jury votes to acquit a defendant even though they may believe they committed a crime.

No, there is no "may"! It is jury nullification when the jury believes the defendant committed a crime. There is no "may" about it.

Fucking so afraid to actually write something they will insert this uncertain language everywhere to the point it doesn't even make sense.

What is the point in reading your article, when even you don't seem to believe what you are writing is correct?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 minutes ago

"Phenomenon called Jury Nullification."

Disgusting langauge, it makes it sound like a newfangled perversion of the justice system instead of an actual right that people have.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

He should just get nominated to become presisent. Every penalty, accisation and conviction will go away - just like magic.

[–] T00l_shed 12 points 9 hours ago

Only if he runs for the GOP

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine if they had held a trial for the people who cut off the heads of the royalty and the court in France.

Technically, yes, it's murder. But it was the only way out for the vast population to earn their feeedom from their oppressors. Because this is a response and legitimate defence against the institutionalized violence that the population had been facing.

[–] some_designer_dude 3 points 5 hours ago

They weave and dodge all accountability, demonstrating how untouchable they are by anything other than outright violence.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Every major decision in this country seems to end up going the way the wealthy want.

They definitely want this to have maximum punishment to deter copycats.

This will never happen. You won't find a jury in the country that will unanimously give a not guilty verdict. Best case is a hung jury twice in a row leading to a mistrial. Worst case they find one of the loopholes that lets the judge decide or they unanimously declare him guilty.

They don't worry about all the school shootings because their kids go to private school which is a big reason why nothing is done (24 private school shootings vs 392 public school shootings for the past 25 years or so.) The working class families are the victims, so nobody in power really cares beyond lip service.

[–] Chip_Rat 19 points 11 hours ago

Hey. That 24 vs 392 number, what's the percentages? Like how many private schools VS public are we talking about?

Cause that number without context seems extremely misleading. Not trying to start shit. I just don't know where you got those numbers or where I'd get the totals to compare.

[–] pjwestin 124 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Boy, this, "Jury Nullification," thing sure sounds like it would give everyday Americans a dangerous amount of power of our judicial system! I hope the media writes a lot more articles about it so that more people are aware of this terrible, terrible thing that they should never, ever do.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I know if I ever got on the jury I would go for innocent.

[–] pjwestin 21 points 14 hours ago

No! You mustn't! It's your duty as a juror to uphold the law! Even if you don't agree with it an there are no enforceable penalties for voting with your conscience instead of the law!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Which is very likely why you would never get on jury for a case like this.

Just saying, that is how it works in the real world

[–] [email protected] 1 points 37 minutes ago

That's OK, you're still using up the prosecutor's ammo during jury selection.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt 9 points 14 hours ago

I was on one about 7 years ago with a guy who didn't believe in prison. He was never going to vote guilty. Where I was you only needed 10 out of 12, which is very rare. And since then they changed to needing 12 out of 12, so quiet jury notification has already started...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago

Seems highly unlikely but we'll see.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

We need to release him so he can work on Elon next.

[–] [email protected] 152 points 1 day ago (11 children)

If Kyle Rittenhouse can walk free, so can Luigi. FREE LUIGI!

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[–] [email protected] 171 points 1 day ago (10 children)

He says that most of us despise insurance companies and have had bad experiences with them, but that doesn't mean we think people should be going around killing insurance executives in the street.

Don't be so sure.

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[–] [email protected] 189 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

Defense of others. He acted to prevent the deaths of millions at the hands of a monster.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Every time someone posits "outcome might not be terrible" hypotheticals about the US "justice" system, I turn into Hawkeye, and not the Alan Alda one..

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