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Elon Musk made a surprise appearance during Germany’s Alternative fΓΌr Deutschland (AfD) election campaign event in Halle in eastern Germany on Saturday, speaking publicly in support of the far-right party for the second time in as many weeks.

"It’s good to be proud of German culture, German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything,” Musk said.

Note that Musk's citizenship include South Africa, Canada (from 1989) and United States (from 2002)

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[–] MITM0 1 points 1 hour ago

Whaaaat ? No pelting ?

[–] x00z 24 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If a billionaire meddles with anything related to politics, it's lobbying. And if that lobbying is public, hateful and divides people, you know it's nefarious and should be stopped as soon as possible.

The man has everything he needs. The only thing he doesn't have? Actual power. And he's going for it.

[–] HowRu68 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The man has everything he needs. The only thing he doesn't have? Actual power. And he's going for it.<

I get what you're trying to say. But words can change stories, so here is a slightly different take:

He has everything he needs and too much of it . Including power, that's why he gets more and more, and way more than one can ever need in hundreds of generations.

That's also why he can do and say all kinds of shit, and get away with it. And that's the problem. Our world shouldn't facilitate that kind of power and power abuse, without accountability. But it has, and that's why he's a problem.

Yet, he has been crossing some lines. And so, his public support and political clout is slowly diminishing. Seemingly, more financial institutions are starting to lose confidence in him, and dropping supporting him.

[–] P1nkman 82 points 1 day ago

If it sounds like nazi, walks like a nazi, and talks like a nazi, it's just Elon Musk, the nazi.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It got a bit out of hand, because the only ones wanting him there were the Nazis.

[–] nialv7 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

Well, I was downvoted hundreds of times and being told by someone I had the "most moronic opinion" they had ever seen, just because I pointed out there are people in Germany who will celebrate Elon Musk doing the Nazi salute.

Do you believe me now? I am so tired of this shit. Our world is going up in flames and somehow I still need to be ridiculed by someone who I share most of my political beliefs with. Come on, we are on the same side.

[–] Feathercrown 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And you were downvoted AGAIN.

Listen up people. Elon Musk is a Nazi. This country used to kill Nazis. We cannot accept him in our government. I don't care what personal hangups about this you have for some reason. Vote this shitstain out the next chance you get.

[–] TomAwsm 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do we vote someone out that was never voted in?

(this isn't to be contrarian, I agree with everything in your comment)

[–] Nalivai 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If it's not obvious, you vote out those who brought him in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

He's just going to buy the next election/president too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tesla has some cult like Followers which are doing Olympic Level Mental Gymnastics.

Just like Church of Apple Members

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I believe they are dwindling, at least for me it's getting more rare to find them, although I'm not in twitter.

I remember going to electrec.co and everybody there was a Musksteer, but now it's the completely opposite. Even in teslarati there are way more dissidents than before

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

America* FTFY

of course not all Americans, but maga, all of silicone valley, whoever works for Elon....

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Musk spoke live via video link

For those wondering.

I guess he is afraid to get arrested in Germany given his apparent lack of self-control Heil Hitlering crowds in person. /s

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Heil Hitlering

In Germany, we call that "abhitlern" (to hitler off).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago

Death, taxes, German having a word for it, whatever it may be.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

I would hope that the anti-Nazi countries would refuse to allow entry. Unless they decide to let him in just so they can arrest him. Hopefully there are still countries that will hold billionaires accountable.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Heil Hitlering

I feel bad for laughing at that.

[–] Redredme 17 points 1 day ago

If you find that funny you just have to watch Jojo rabbit.

It's where this term comes from. Quite funny. Heartbreaking also. Great movie.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Is this guy wearing 3 pairs of glasses wtf

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Wait, you're telling me his jet -- which is being actively tracked on mastodon -- just made a journey across the Atlantic, and it was not targeted by a bunch of drones?

How is this possible?

Edit: ahh, he spoke remotely. That makes more sense

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The biggest news / media company in Germany (anf maybe europe?), *Axel Springer, *also invited this nazi and his nazi friends from the AfD to their yearly economic event in Berljn next week: https://www.axelspringer.com/de/ax-press-release/vor-der-bundestagswahl-politiker-und-wirtschafts-lenker-treffen-sich-zum-dialog-beim-16-welt-wirtschaftsgipfel

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

wouldn't it be amazing when he would be put under arrest once he landed?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Musk's words remind me of a prominent German leader who once also sought to keep Germany pure and prevent "the sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything." I'm having trouble placing the guy's name though...

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[–] Feathercrown 11 points 1 day ago

What the FUCK

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most ironic thing is that an elite, globalist is an inspiration of anti elite anti globalists.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gross. The coward was only willing to β€˜make an appearance’ via video.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

No need to ruin the entire day with a trip if the right-wing asshats will fawn over you all the same. Ultimately, influencing German politics is only another part-time effort for Elmo. Which can be seen in other ways too, such as mispelling Weidel as "Wiedel" in the announcement of his ralk with her or behaving condescendingly toward her.

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