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Well, I was downvoted hundreds of times and being told by someone I had the "most moronic opinion" they had ever seen, just because I pointed out there are people in Germany who will celebrate Elon Musk doing the Nazi salute.
Do you believe me now? I am so tired of this shit. Our world is going up in flames and somehow I still need to be ridiculed by someone who I share most of my political beliefs with. Come on, we are on the same side.
And you were downvoted AGAIN.
Listen up people. Elon Musk is a Nazi. This country used to kill Nazis. We cannot accept him in our government. I don't care what personal hangups about this you have for some reason. Vote this shitstain out the next chance you get.
How do we vote someone out that was never voted in?
(this isn't to be contrarian, I agree with everything in your comment)
If it's not obvious, you vote out those who brought him in.
He's just going to buy the next election/president too.
Tesla has some cult like Followers which are doing Olympic Level Mental Gymnastics.
Just like Church of Apple Members
I believe they are dwindling, at least for me it's getting more rare to find them, although I'm not in twitter.
I remember going to electrec.co and everybody there was a Musksteer, but now it's the completely opposite. Even in teslarati there are way more dissidents than before
America* FTFY
of course not all Americans, but maga, all of silicone valley, whoever works for Elon....
"Do you think there are no Nazi sympathizers in Germany? Don't you see AfD on the rise there?
Most of the people seeing this isn't going to know the context (i.e. this is a protest). If you strip away the context, this is just a blatant public display of the fascist salute, which many there have wanted to do for so long but couldn't because they feared the consequences. This could very well embolden them.
Like, if you just look at the photo, it even straight out says "heil Tesla", for crying out loud. If this is a protest, they did a piss poor job of it. At least put a clown makeup on Elon's face, what are they even doing.
Edit: some people can't even read it seems."
https://lemmy.world/comment/14629315
Lol, no, that's not why you got downvoted. You got downvoted for saying people don't understand the context. Which is just a really bad take.
You might want to put that into a quote block.
And, no, the people from the centre of political beauty are definitely not Nazis, and neither are they amateurs. They're professionals. Their list of exploits is long, and artistic, including building a replica of the Berlin holocaust memorial next to the house of Germany's highest-ranking Nazi.
This isn't.
This again isn't.
Respectfully, learn to post on lemmy.
...ah, looks like you do; good to know...
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Sigh, here we go again. Many people didn't try to understand what I meant by context. No I wasn't talking about the context of Elon doing a fucking Nazi salute on inauguration. Every one saw that on the news. I was talking about the context of seeing the photo of Elon Musk's Nazi salute being projected onto the side of a building.
That's what was shared here, not the news article about it being a protest, not the video released later by the protesters (which is worth watching btw). So yeah, I stand by the claim that that photo itself can be taken out of context and be made to look bad. And in fact it is, I've seen far right assholes calling it based, and Germany is currently investigating it for its use of Nazi symbolisms.
Is that enough? That's not even the main thing my comment was about. What's even the point? Neo-nazi is on the rise in Germany, and broadcasting Elon doing this shit will embolden them, and you want to talk about context.
So fine, downvote me. I'm depressed to see people on my side can't even muster two brain cells to think.
And everyone in Germany understood it as branding Tesla as Nazi. A big "Don't buy cars from Nazis" sign. The cultural implication is "Own a Tesla? Better get a sticker distancing yourself or a packet of charcoal starters might find itself located on one of those tyres".
Nazis cheering for Musk is a different phenomenon.