this post was submitted on 24 Jan 2025
266 points (95.9% liked)

News

24344 readers
7367 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
all 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fascist ICE Agents, Go fuck yourselves

[–] gAlienLifeform 14 points 1 week ago

Like a Russian warship

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good. Imagine being so evil that you'd want to traumatize children by forcing them to watch people get taken away.

[–] FlyingSquid 47 points 1 week ago

As has been said many times, unfortunately, the cruelty is the point.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Chicago police said they were not notified of the alleged incident.

Sounds like neither ICE nor the people trusted the police to be on their side.

[–] kreskin 5 points 1 week ago

Whenever its authorities doing wrongdoing its "alleged". When its anyone else they call them "perpetrators", or "Wanted for X". Our law enforcement badly needs adult supervision and they havent gotten it. Ever.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 4 points 1 week ago

Police work for the oligarchs, not us, they’re class traitors.

[–] TheTimeKnife 39 points 1 week ago

Gestapo are already out in full force

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

School shooters about to become teenage Luigis in Chicago

[–] DrFistington 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh holy shit man. That's a movie. Depressed suicidal teenager one day decides to go into his high school to shoot up the place and kill everyone... But things take a twist when an evil government agency assaults the school. Now this would-be school shooter realizes his purpose. He wasn't put here to murder his classmates. He was put here to protect them. Queue the John Wick music.

But seriously you could actually make this a really good movie about the struggles that modern teenagers face and how when it comes down to it we're all in it together more than where apart. Sometimes it just takes an unusual situation to find that out.

[–] ProfessorProteus 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, I kinda love that idea! That twist sounds amazing. I'm sure it would draw an insane amount of controversy, but fuck, we as a nation need to discuss this obvious mental health problem. If "no press is bad press" for the oligarchy scum that rule our lives, then the same should go for this.

I'm not sure how well it would be received if we're expected to cheer for the would-be mass murderer, but anything is better than the flaccid "thoughts and prayers" bullshit that our politicians flood the conversation with every time, while sweeping it under the rug.

If only a movie producer was brave enough to take this on...

[–] DrFistington 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, I think it would also be controversial. Although maybe that's what we need since apparently kids actually getting shot up in school by fellow classmates isn't controversial anymore.

Besides all publicity is good publicity. More outrage will eventually lead to more attention and if the film is good people will like it.

And the fun part is doesn't have to be a film made in the US there are a lot of filmmakers worldwide that would probably entertain this idea. I seriously think I'm going to get started on draft...

[–] ProfessorProteus 2 points 1 week ago

I seriously think I'm going to get started on draft...

Please do, I really think you're on to something good!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

If Ewe Ball can make Rampage, then there should be nothing stopping a movie like that!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago
[–] AbidanYre 26 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have very little faith in people; at some point some red-hat is going to tell their kid they should let ICE in at school. Kid will get praised by right-wing media but be confused when half their friends are gone.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 8 points 1 week ago

Then red hat indoctrinated kid gets told that s/he’s the victim of liberal hate and smears, the right thing to do was to let the authoritarians in.

[–] NatakuNox 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just fucking imagine how that would go! I work in education and simply having a unfamiliar police officer in the school causes stress in the kids. Now you want to come inside and remove students. Bro this will end violently if it happens. Caring staff and students are not going to hand over a crying and confused child.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Maybe we should have given the teachers guns…

/s

[–] PunnyName 17 points 1 week ago
[–] Maggoty 15 points 1 week ago

They updated it, it was USSS, but still a good call. Police should not be in schools unless there's a specific incident happening.

[–] DrFistington 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Who the fuck are they going to deport from there? Teachers are all probably legal or have visas, and kids that young won't have government id's on them...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

If they nab children of immigrants, their parents will have to show up to get them. Then they can boot the whole family out of the country. Disgusting? Yes.

[–] FlyingSquid 17 points 1 week ago

and kids that young won’t have government id’s on them…

They are fine with deporting kids who are citizens. Trump doesn't even want them to be citizens if their parents aren't despite being born here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

The goal is to get the parents to keep the kids home from school. First, isolate the victims.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nobody, it was the secret service, not ICE. Apparently some kid at the school made some kind of threat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Proof of that would've given them jurisdiction. Meaning they couldn't legally be prevented entry. I don't buy it.

[–] DrFistington 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That makes absolutely no sense. Even if a kid made a threat against someone protected by SS, they would use local Leo or the FBI to find and detain the kid, and the school wouldnt prevent it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I don’t find it hard to believe that Trump would sic the secret service on some kid. He’s going to be using federal law enforcement to punish anyone he sees as critical of him, at least for the next four years. And not just immigrants, but anybody he and his followers see as undesirables.

Of course, there’s also the chance the SS were there for counterfeiting. It would not be the first time they showed up at a school because some kid was printing money. Vince Vantage put out a video on that.

[–] gAlienLifeform 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Chicago Public Schools officials claim U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were denied entry to a South Side elementary school Friday morning.

[Ital. added]

Meanwhile, the most inane and unbelievable shit dribbles out of Trump administration officials mouths and journalists will be all "an official familiar with the matter confirmed to ABC" without the hint of a doubt

e; This article has been updated with the feds' new story, and the new headline is a great example of exactly what I was talking about

US Secret Service approached South Side school, not ICE agents: officials

You could say that's what these "officials" claimed, but ABC sure won't.

At any rate, a couple of questions,

Why were the local cops totally in the dark on this? If the secret service was investigating a death threat, what was the plan if their suspect wasn't at home or at school? Just hang around Chicago until you spot them? And if you're confronting a potentially dangerous person at a school, wouldn't you really want to have a whole coordinated police action instead of just having one agent waltz in on their own?

Did this agent identify themselves as secret service and tell the school why they were there? Because they should have but I don't understand how the school would have thought they were ICE if they did, and I don't believe this school would throw a press conference to lie about this when they had to know the federal government would respond to their press conference.

Lastly, if ICE and the secret service were just lying through their teeth to ABC, how would we know? Alternatively, if they were telling the truth, how could we know? Because absent some kind of external proof statements from the Trump administration have zero informational value.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Are they claiming they sent the Secret Service because some 5-11 year old kid made a threat against the president? That's completely unbelievable.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why exactly would the school officials lie? They aren't even in the Trump administration.

Edit: Never mind, I misunderstood the post. Sorry.

[–] gAlienLifeform 3 points 1 week ago

No worries at all! Text communication is tricky at the best of times and I have absolutely no discipline when I write and have like fifteen thoughts per sentence, with at least four being hyperbole, two that are sarcastic, and one that's a reference to a random playstation game I rented from blockbuster but forgot the name of, so, yeah, misunderstandings happen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Article says it was the secret service, not ICE.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 8 points 1 week ago

Which oversees ICE, but in any case being the SS doesn’t make it better for me

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 8 points 1 week ago

“Dude, you’re creating Mexican Joker”

[–] Veedem -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This was not an incident involving ICE if anyone here would bother to read beyond the headline

CHICAGO (WLS) -- The U.S. Secret Service told the I-Team they approached a South Side school Friday. Chicago Public Schools officials had initially said the agent or agents were from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Secret Service said they were investigating a threat, and responded to a house. They said they were then told the person they wanted to talk to was at Hamline Elementary School, but they did not enter the school, the Secret Service told the I-Team.

The threat the Secret Service was investigating was not immediately clear.

CPS officials had claimed an ICE agent or agents were denied entry to the South Side elementary school Friday morning.

ICE said this was not a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement encounter.

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why are you trusting the Trump administration over the schools?