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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Yesterday, I plugged a usb A memory stick into my phone using a USB-C OTG adapter. I had used it before and knew it worked, but this time, it said that it was charging my phone, and I couldn't figure out how to make the flash drive be recognised as storage.

I spent a while troubleshooting and then saw a suggestion to unplug the adapter and rotate it (i.e. do the thing that you do when you try to plug in a USB A but it's the wrong way round (except this was obviously usb C)). It worked. I was nonplussed but happy it worked.

This post reminded me of that

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I remember learning about the 5v pin when working in an IT service desk. Displayport cables (at least the old ones, i dont know if the new ones have it) didnt have the 5v pin so when converting to hdmi, hdmi had to be the source/input and the displayport had to be the output. Unless the converter had a usb or power cable input but we didn't buy those as standard.

The number of tickets that people were faffing around trying to work out why the cable wasn't working that were solved by me spending 5 minutes doing a google search was embarrassing. And i still had to tell them again, all the time.

Learning about that lead to learning about all different display conversion cables and which worked and which didnt. And the various types of dvi cables.

All interesting stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Maybe you can tell me why I can't find a usb-c to dual link DVI cable that is actually dual link and also didn't lie about being dual link even when it explicitly said it was dual link on the box.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago

The VGA port does have a 5V pin, but I wouldn't suggest trying to charge a phone from it. It's probably not intended to supply much current.

[–] einlander 46 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

If you had an old Samsung android smartphone or select HTC Windows Mobile (win ce 6.1/6.5) phones, they had HDMI over micro USB.

[–] Psythik 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Samsung phones are bloated as hell, but sometimes the bloat is useful. One thing I like about them is that you can plug just about any Samsung phone into a monitor and it will just work without a fuss. I keep an HDMI to USB-C cable plugged into the back of my TV because I can just plug my phone right into it to show something really quick. It's so much faster and more convenient than fiddling with casting and its various issues.

[–] einlander 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think most flagship phones do that now. Myotorola edge has Desktop and Streaming modes. But back in the late 2000's this stuff was amazing.

[–] Psythik 3 points 5 hours ago

You'd be surprised. My last phone (OnePlus 6T) had USB-C but was a 2.0 port in disguise with no extra capabilities beyond what USB 2.0 could already do.

But for what it's worth, I buy new phones every 5-6 years and always buy them used + a couple of generations behind, so what's new to me might have been around for awhile. I simply remember being able to connect a Samsung phone to a TV long before I could do that with any other phone brand.

[–] cm0002 18 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I have a bunch of old phones with mini HDMI lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

My 3 year old mirrorless camera has mini hdmi.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

That USB port is more blown out than the fourth page of a porn hub search.

[–] cm0002 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

LMAO, it is (relatively) an ancient phone. It's a Motorola Droid X circa 2010

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I bought a Verizon Droid around 2011 (X? Turbo? Bionic? Who can remember). I used my mini hdmi port exactly once. Moved into my new house. ISP wouldn't be out until the next day, so I ran Netflix from my phone to my TV. For many hours. Phone was extremely hot.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

The port is so worn I mistook it for a USB 3 port.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

My work has some old Pi's, and they use micro USB to HDMI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

The tech in phones back then was wild.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The HDMI-to-VGA adapter needs 5V on its micro USB port, then it may work (if the adapters are correct and the phone or tablet supports MHL). 😂

[–] DaMonsterKnees 26 points 13 hours ago

Those are some anxious electrons.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 13 hours ago

The monitor practically became a charging light

[–] ArbiterXero 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There’s no way that charges.

[–] Vinny_93 37 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Sure there is. A display signal is essentially just current through specific lines. The way the current is routed makes no sense, but there will definitely be current running through the wires. The only thing needed is for the charging pin of the micro-usb to be connected to any vga pin that transfers current. The rest is just the magic of conducting wires.

It won't charge quickly though, I'd expect it'd take hours just to charge like 20%.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I think you still need a minimum amperage of like 1.2 or something like that though. Not sure how the display would be giving that much.

[–] over_clox 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Page 553 of this document (third page in as it starts at the appendix) says that pin 9 is optional, but if used, is 5V

https://vhdl.us/book/Pedroni_VHDL_3E_AppendixI.pdf

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

+5v to the monitor, not from. Even if it was from, I can’t imagine it being rated for enough current to make charging feasible.

[–] Aqarius 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Well, it's hooked up to a laptop, so, yeah, VGA out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

Its not hooked up to a laptop. Its hooked up to a display. It says so in the message

[–] ArbiterXero 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I guess the vertical and horizontal sync are +5, but how would that be connected to the +5 on USB? Seems unlikely but possible I guess?

[–] over_clox 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, pin 9 is reserved and not needed, but when implemented, offers 5 volts power.

https://vhdl.us/book/Pedroni_VHDL_3E_AppendixI.pdf

[–] ArbiterXero 1 points 11 hours ago

Fair enough. Still nuts.

[–] ThePyroPython 7 points 12 hours ago

Cries in Electronic Engineer

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

I love random conversion stuff. But it always makes me worried when USB is so often the core. I really think exposing the serial bus and power simultaneously to the user in a simple plug and basically hoping it doesn't blow up.