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In the series, corporations get a bailout when things get bad, collude to make it worse with profits over people and then basically buy off world governments in a reverse bail out to take control of the system. With a “Corporate Congress” and all people having a “life debt”.

Oh, and the time travel aspect of it is pretty cool too.

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[–] kinsnik 107 points 13 hours ago (35 children)

Idiocracy was too optimistic. it supposes that when people are having problems they will realize, realize they can't fix it, and try to find someone who knows more than them to fix them

[–] Snapz 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Your point, like many similar, misses the fact that idiocracy is MANY cycles in before they attempt to right the ship. There is an entire population of adults in there that seemed to have been born into the already broken world and developed wholly inside of it (and probably several generations). Not a lot of "Back in my day" in that world, because back in "that day" everyone was still a fucking moron in a broken world.

500 years covered in the link below alone. Settle in, we're just getting started. Unfortunately we'll never live to see the movie, "Ass" or to see it win those 8 Oscars.

http://www.themovietimeline.com/film6759

[–] [email protected] 46 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not just that but the story also suggests that the US can fail so terribly while still functioning to be able to still host monster truck rallies and have a working water system that can pump millions of gallons of mountain dew

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago

Brawndo, its what plants crave

[–] Windex007 18 points 12 hours ago

The premise was that it was a gradual decline to that point though. There would have been millions of opportunities to right the ship up until that point. It's optimistic that at some point, at SOME point, people will decide to do what the smartest people think. But the movie is pretty pessimistic that there was entire generations that didn't ever do that even once.

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[–] BlackPenguins 35 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (13 children)

I just finished rewatching this yesterday. It's on Prime by the way. And as the show continued I was like "Wait, am I siding with Liber8"? The terrorist group in the show. Seriously there are so many parallels to real life. This was made in 2012. A bit ahead of its time.

The people with the money making our laws. Our presidential cabinet is about to be made up of billions of dollars. Other corporations (Piron) buying the government so they can have political power. Lobbying.

The first episode when we saw the first grassroots support of Liber8 trying to take down a corporation using violence I thought of Luigi and his overwhelming support by the public. And the followers of Theseus that kept saying ideas are more powerful than violence.

The Theseus followers have a peaceful protest on a college campus, and they are arrested because their ideas align with Liber8 and therefore are "supporting terrorists". But really they are just supporting the cause, not the few violent people. Which is exactly like supporting the Palestinians. The police consider every Palestinian a terrorist even though it's only a few who did the atrocities.

In 2077 everyone is being tracked by their gadgets and your worth is dependent on your actual net worth. Everything is privatized. Firefighters actually chose to save a couple of board execs in a building over two kids because they "contribute more". History is banned. Anything that reports on history like VHS, DVD, books is considered contraband. We already are trying to censor slavery in Florida schools. Misinformation runs wild and the public just believe what the corporations tell them. Anyone against them is evil or a terrorist. See: FOX news today.

The time travel gets a little wonky at times but damn was it a fascinating show of the gray area. I kept flipping back and forth on who was right. And shit, the twist in season 3 I didn't see coming and basically upended the entire series. The future cop having her tech gadgets in 2012 working with the very same person who caused the future as an 18 year old kid is a fun concept. Making him an enemy of his future self. Definitely worth a quick watch. 4 short seasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, the overall plot of the show is that people who are perceived as terrorists are often liberation fighters with a nasty edge, and it’s hard tell the difference between evil and righteousness sometimes. The narrative perspective shifts and changes and so do your sympathies with the characters. It is a harsh critique of runaway, capitalism, but not necessarily fully anti-capitalist or pro communist anything. It ends up with a pretty centrist message in some ways.

It’s great to see Vancouver acting as Vancouver, both future and present, pretty rare considering how much is being shot there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

The scariest part about this comment that it barely sounds like fiction.

[–] spankmonkey 12 points 11 hours ago

Seriously there are so many parallels to real life. This was made in 2012. A bit ahead of its time.

Like with most movies and books that seem ahead of their time because they 'predict the future', the show was based on an existing trend that was happening and they accurately predicted the obvious outcome. That isn't a criticism of their artistic ability, just pointing out that we were well on this path back in 2012 and the show happened to highlight that trend.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

+1 for referencing Continuum. "Canadian Sci-Fi starring Roger Cross" is probably one of my favorite sub-genres of it, and Continuum is at the top of that list (Dark Matter is a close second).

[–] YarHarSuperstar 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ooh the guy from Dark Matter is in this? I'll have to watch it now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but he's mean in Continuum lol. In Dark Matter he was probably the nicest of the 6 main characters.

[–] KnightontheSun 3 points 7 hours ago

It might be worth pointing out there are two sci-fi shows called "Dark Matter".

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4159076/ <-- This is the crazy fun space sci-fi show from 2015 that ended abruptly. This is the one I think you referenced.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19231492/ <-- This is the more somber sci-fi show from 2024 with the focus on dimensional travel. It is good, but I prefer the other.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

Canadian Sci-Fi starring Roger Cross

That made me laugh out loud because it's so damn true.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly the world is much better than it was.

For instance, around 140 million people were killed in WWI and WWII.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's correct. It IS better than it was. And it's important to KEEP it that way. But in case you haven't noticed, world history is following pretty much the exact same path beat-for-beat that it did in the lead up to that war that cost 140 million lives.

It's not whether we are better off than we were in the past. It's a question of whether or not we're going to stay that way. Because the next world war might claim a billion or more. (exaggerating for effect of course)

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