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Summary

Mike Pence’s advocacy group, Advancing American Freedom (AAF), opposes Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s nomination as Secretary of Health and Human Services, citing concerns about his inconsistent abortion stance.

Despite Kennedy’s reassurances to pro-life leaders and pledges to reinstate Trump-era policies, AAF doubts his commitment to pro-life values, emphasizing his past support for abortion access.

Trump’s endorsement has divided conservatives, with some defending Kennedy’s potential, while others see it as a risk.

Kennedy’s lack of public health credentials and history of spreading misinformation also face widespread criticism.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

for the very worst reasons and this guy is among their best and sanest. sigh.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Exact sentiments I had.

[–] jaybone 8 points 21 hours ago

Wait, is Pence’s AAF group actually concerned about vaccines and … oh, it’s about abortion. lol

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump’s endorsement has divided conservatives

This is where your line is, eh conservatives? Gestures around All the rest of this shit is just fine though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Usually, there isn't really that much divisiveness in conservative politics because they are, well, not progressive at all. Progress fundamentally comes with finding new ways of dealing with issues and bringing awareness to ignored topics, so the progressives always have to discuss and debate to find the way forward. Conservatives don't, they just infight sometimes if they feel they got sidelined as to show power.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mike Pence’s advocacy group, Advancing American Freedom (AAF), opposes Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s nomination as Secretary of Health and Human Services, citing concerns about his inconsistent abortion stance.

Killing children after birth by spreading vaccine misinformation and conspiracy theories is fine, though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Children are only holy when inside the belly. Once they come out, all bets are off.

[–] negativenull 4 points 1 day ago

Once they are born, they have "original sin" and are unworthy.

[–] negativenull 27 points 1 day ago

Right decision, for the wrong reasons

[–] CharlesDarwin 20 points 1 day ago

Good. Even if it is for stupid reasons. Abortion stance? WTAF. Good grief, the forced birthers are stupid.

Anyway, Brainworms has absolutely zero credentials and would be actively harming Americans (and not just Americans if his anti-vaxxer nonsense spreads).

[–] brucethemoose 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For all the talk of American Christian nationalism, it sure seems like "Christian Republicans" have been dropped like a rock.

Again, look at Trump's cabinet. There's lip service, but do you see many "Pence" kind of bible thumper characters there? Is there any groundswell of support for Pence here, who is clearly on their side? I sure don't see it.

[–] Curiousfur 6 points 1 day ago

They've got fascist misogynists who reference the Bible, which to the casual observer (or Republican voter), are hard to distinguish from actual Christian Nationalists, but none of these people actually worship anything other than the dollar and absolute power.

[–] skeezix 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ExhaleSmile 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Too much credit, cause even a broken clock is right twice a day

[–] kn33 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This guy is like a broken clock that also shows that today is February 29th

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

He got this right and also didn't block the election certification 4 years ago. So yeah, that tracks pretty will.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

To be fair, he couldn't legally block it anyways. But he would've cause some chaos before the senate just get the pres protem to do it anyways, bypassing pence.

[–] disguy_ovahea 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Jeez. Try to have a guy hanged once and now he’s a critic. Where’s the loyalty? Lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I'm so glad that he did.

Because he checks notes has zero influence on confirmation hearings.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Obligatory fuck Pence but I like any event that makes RFK less likely to be confirmed because he's seemingly the most palatable by political standards of the Crony Crew so if we can stop him we can stop anyone.

[–] Veedem 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We are in a ridiculous timeline.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Brain worms for everyone!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It's a little late.

[–] Doorbook 4 points 1 day ago

I wonder if this is because he is un qualified or because he was going to stop ads on tv.

[–] xc2215x 4 points 1 day ago

Good for Pence.