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    [–] Konstant 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 107 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    As an Arch user, whatever suits you.

    I installed Arch on my ThinkPad because.............................................................................................. uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh.................... I had an Arch sticker and I felt like I couldn't use it if I didn't use Arch.

    Everyone has some reasons for their favorite distro.

    [–] [email protected] 48 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

    I use Arch, and I have an OpenSUSE wallpaper.

    Before this, I used Mint and had an Arch wallpaper...

    I live to offend.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

    Opensuse unironically has some of the best OS branding and wallpapers. I like that little chameleon.

    I use bazzite now but I liked all of the visuals of opensuse Kalpa better!

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    [–] [email protected] 77 points 4 days ago (4 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 56 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (19 children)

    I'm too lazy to maintain an Arch install, so it's Mint for me. Long live Mint unironically.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Mint is one of the best versions of Ubuntu you could possibly use. They give you Ubuntu without all the forced snaps and other crap.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    At that point just use Debian?

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (9 children)

    Fair enough, but Mint gives you the more up to date base of Ubuntu and some QoL tools that Debian doesn't have. If you prefer Debian, then use it. I just feel Mint is better for beginners or people who want an easier time with less tinkering.

    [–] Warl0k3 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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    [–] herrvogel 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

    Running yay every other day is all the maintenance I do on my arch installation.

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    [–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

    No FLOSS loving Linux user is dead to me, not even the GNOME project team, and frankly I suspect it's noobies and non-users pushing these memes lately.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    I agree. I don't think I've ever actually received or witnessed the hate that the memes espouse as the norm in the Linux community. I've seen some "oh really, I had trouble with that so I use blank instead" or maybe even "you should try blank" (mostly when people ask though). I think most of us are too busy hating Windows to really truly hate other linux distros. We have our favorites and we will happily share that with anyone that asks, and many that don't.

    I've tried to stop talking about it all the time to friends and family as I don't want to scare them off, but I am just using it everyday in front of them and showing them that I don't have infinitely more problems than they do... Hoping it just seeps in via osmosis and at some point one too many "hey, you should buy a new computer, windows 10 is going end of life soon you know" pop-ups will set off that magical chain reaction.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

    I met a friend of a friend at an event and somehow PCs and Linux came up. He asked if I'm a Linux user (which I like to think you can't immediately tell). I assume to build some nerd cred. I said "yeah, I technically have Linux with me right now". He asked what I meant, so I pulled out the Steam Deck. He was unfamiliar and I briefly explained.

    When he heard it's a commercial product (obviously), he actually pretended to faint. And then kept acting as if I had personally insulted him, not in a joking way. I had clearly failed the purity test in that moment.

    It was a strange experience. Not even in hackerspaces I'd ever had a conversation like that. So these people are rare but they do exist.

    [–] AdrianTheFrog 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    honestly if I heard someone say "I technically have linux with me right now" I would expect them to pull out an Android phone and say that Android is based on the Linux kernel (it is, its just not what anyone means when they say 'linux', its a pretty good example of how 'linux' refers to the OS and not the kernel)

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    Steam Deck is one of them best things ever created. It is a great way to market Linux to masses, this is the same way Windows gained its market cap. Windows made its dominance by being the default operating system for most PCs, normal users don't know how to install operating systems, and probably don't even know Linux exists.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Yeah. That kind of attitude is missing the forest for the trees. Open source gets better the more people use it, including the vast majority of casual users who don't know or care about the GPL. Pretending that's a problem is just gatekeeping to feel special and stroke your own ego.

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    [–] MITM0 3 points 3 days ago

    Exactly, that or trolls & saboteurs

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    [–] llamatron 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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    Linux distros are just the new "101 flavors of Protestantism," complete with radical zealots who believe you will go to Hell for choosing the wrong one.

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    [–] comador 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    As an old crusty Slackware user and UNIX admin, IDGAF what Linux distro people use; using any of them is a step in the right direction.

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    [–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    I love it. This made me laugh.

    But, as this month's chair of the of the Linux User Group for Letting Everyone Know We Hate Snaps (LUG LEKWHS), I want to clarify that we don't have a problem with Ubuntu users.

    It's Canonical we have a beef with.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    As an Arch user, both Debian and Pop_OS are better choices than Ubuntu

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (8 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago

    s/HERE/HEAR/g

    [–] MITM0 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    No love for Debian, yet again

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    [–] Zeon 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    Meh, I mean, Arch includes non-free software as well, so as a Trisquel user, you are all dead to me.

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    [–] ch00f 21 points 4 days ago (7 children)

    I just went full linux on my daily driver about a year ago after running a headless linux media server for a few years.

    Can someone explain to me why Ubuntu is so terrible? Is it not difficult enough to use or something?

    [–] FuglyDuck 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    I’m going to preface this with saying whatever works for you.

    It’s not really about difficulty for most people.

    Canonical (the people who manage Ubuntu,) has made some unfortunate decisions.

    First, and I feel this has always been true, they approach their users with the assumption that they are in fact idiots. Microsoft has the same design philosophy, and it makes things much harder than it needs to be. (Some people may be idiots, but if they want to wipe the entire drive, that’s their business, right?)

    Secondly, Ubuntu tends snoop on you, and certain decisions by canonical raises alarms.

    Finally, fuck snap.

    Edit: if all you’ve used is Ubuntu, get yourself a moderately large usb stick and try a few others out. No need to remove Ubuntu to try a new flavor. Linux is like ice cream. Find your favorite and stab anyone who disagrees with you. I mean, Stan it. Yeah that’s it.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    snaps.

    oh, and that time that Canonical put Amazon telemetry in the default search application.

    oh, and how they just bundle up "bleeding edge" stuff from a year ago and ship it with it's associated bugs.

    It's been a few years since I tried but it just really turned me off.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

    I'm sure there are as many reasons as there are people who dislike Ubuntu, but here's a few:

    • They injected internet ads into search
    • To many outside of the community if they have any familiarity with Linux on a desktop, it's with Ubuntu which kinda places it in a position to newcomers as being Linux itself rather than one particular flavor
    • It is very opinionated about look and feel and usability: i.e. their custom launcher and Snaps
    • It's popular
    • It has a reasonably large user base so there's more opportunity for people to find things to nitpick over.

    Overall it's fine. I've used Ubuntu, Mint, Puppy, DSL, Arch (btw), Fedora, and Debian. I can do pretty much anything I need to on any of them. I've got my preferences about the correct balance between useability, upgrade schedule, and customizability.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

    As an Ubuntu user, I would never say "Long live Ubuntu".

    [–] Diplomjodler3 18 points 4 days ago

    I use Mint, by the way.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    As long as it follows Unix conventions it is the correct way to computer

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

    I use both Mint and Archbang. I'm half-dead to myself.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

    Long live Proxmox.

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