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People who have never been to L.A. really have no idea how insanely huge it is. Driving to my apartment from the start of city (before you even get to L.A. county) and having the city just keep going and going and going for two hours and not because of traffic jams is something you have to experience to truly understand.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

Hmm, it's too soon to make the obvious fire joke...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

LA does not have a bigger population than Georgia, and probably not Michigan and a few others. Map is bs.

Still, a shitload of people in trouble rn

[–] Telodzrum 5 points 1 hour ago

Yeah it looks like NJ makes it in by the skin of its teeth and over that the top 10 most populous states all have more people in them than LA County — of which Michigan is one.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I mean that's why we also have representatives that match the population.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 54 minutes ago

Every state still gets at least one. Even if the population is 584,000

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

LA seems to have so much amazing culture but it is drowning in an addiction to cars perhaps worse than almost any other US city and it totally turns me off from going. edit, I didn't mean this as a dig at the average person in LA I literally mean the city itself

I have flown over the endless sprawl and traffic jams on approach to LAX and like vomits in trash can nope. It looks like 1000% the kind of city where it takes at least an hour to get somewhere no matter how close on paper it is.

It is a phenomena of a place, and easily creates and does more to make the world better than all of those rural conservative states combined I just wish it wasn't a car hellscape so I actually desired to visit.

It seems like LA has been making serious progress on becoming more walkable, so I am excited to see where it goes though!

[–] affiliate 3 points 4 hours ago

as an expert on the topic of los angeles (i spent 3 days there, many years ago), i can confirm that it is exactly the kind of city where every drive takes 1 hour. if you have to get on the highway to go somewhere, you better cancel your plans for the evening because your new plan is to sit in traffic forever.

[–] amon 9 points 6 hours ago

Holy hell the urban sprawl is insane

Just grid for hundreds of miles around

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

It's nothing specific to LA, it's what any city with that population and a car centered infrastructure turns into.

I know that's probably what you meant, just wanted to add a bit o' clarity.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Maybe it was based off the 2020 census where it had a higher population, but even then it had less than Michigan, so idk where this is coming from.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It sure is a good thing that land elects presidents.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget Senators too!

[–] FlyingSquid 25 points 8 hours ago

How else would the slave-owning states have the slavery powers they so needed?!?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Which population numbers are you using for this graph? Census data for 2020 has LA county at 10.01 million and NC and Georgia at 10.45 and 10.73 million respectively. (for the second link, click on the Table 1 PDF. I didn't want to link to a PDF directly). 2023 numbers seem to have LA county trending down while those states are trending up.

It's still a staggering visual to compare population densities. I just thought the claim was a bit suspect regarding my state.

[–] dance_ninja 11 points 8 hours ago

It's one of the 33 megacities in the world, so it makes sense.

[–] vivavideri 5 points 7 hours ago

NC has a higher pop than LA county.
Wake county (NC) has a higher pop than MT.

I lived near Orange for a while. The way the cities and towns have 0 gaps between them was nuts to me. It's just.. you cross the street.

In MT you have 2 lane roads with several miles in between. The county I'm in now doesn't touch the interstate. Wild.

Also means the fires out here, as terrifying as they are to my hurricane-seasoned ass, are more likely to take out stuff in the middle of nowhere and a handful of houses, not entire swaths of suburbia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

is something you have to experience to truly understand.

I'm sorry I'm too European-public-transport to even want to understand, darling

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't blame you for that. I would also never go to L.A. as a tourist unless I knew someone to actually show me around the city and know where to take me.

Otherwise you think that it's worth doing things like walking down Hollywood Boulevard and seeing the Chinese Theater and it really isn't unless you actually plan to go watch a movie there. And even then, there's better options.

(That said, the only time I went, I got invited to the Aliens vs. Predator premiere and we ate really potent cannabis brownies beforehand and I was so high I barely remember anything about that movie, so I could be wrong and it could be the best theater in the city. But I vaguely remember it as kind of unimpressive.)

But yeah, unless you are going to a specific place in a touristy part of town, just don't ever go there. And find someone who can tell you where the places that are worth going to are, like the beaches that are not full of idiot tourists and the museums that would actually be worth your time (I miss the Museum of Jurassic Technology so much)...

[–] joostjakob 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The MJT looks like it is worth making a huge detour for

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 hour ago

Absolutely. It is one of the best things in L.A., or at least was when I lived there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

That's why it's a miserable dump.

Enjoy the "Walk of Fame"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 minutes ago

You're right by most accounts, but there the whole fire thing that makes this insensitive.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There are a lot of reasons to complain about L.A., but acting like Hollywood and L.A. are equivalents and Hollywood isn't just a really shitty part of L.A. with a lot of tourists (so of course a lot of panhandlers will be there) is like acting like all of Las Vegas is just The Strip.

Most of L.A. is not Hollywood. I lived in the Valley and you didn't see what you're seeing in that photo. The places you will see a huge number of homeless in L.A. are Hollywood, for the reason I already stated, Downtown because Skid Row is long-established and hospitals actually dump people there when they discharge them (when I lived in L.A., they dumped someone's grandmother with advanced dementia there in a hospital gown) and Santa Monica and Venice on the beach because of both the tourists and the fact that sleeping on sand is a hell of a lot more comfortable than sleeping on concrete.

Like I said, L.A. has a lot of problems, but calling L.A. a miserable dump based just on Hollywood is silly. Don't base your opinion on a city on where the tourists go, it's always going to be one of the worst parts of town.

I lived most of my time in L.A. in North Hollywood. It has nothing to do with Hollywood proper. It's in the Valley and there's a mountain range between it and Hollywood. It was never like that when I lived there as it was gentrifying, and now it's a hip arts district that you would have no real reason to see if you were a tourist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 50 minutes ago (2 children)

Homeless: serious problem, been a problem. Heartless evil the way they're treated now.

Water supply: serious problem, been a problem. Los Angeles is the highest consumer of electricity in California, mainly because the energy is spent on treating and transporting water. Highly inefficient.

Air pollution: serious problem, been a problem. Closely tied to...

Traffic congestion: serious problem, been a problem.

There has been major improvement in drug deaths. Actually quite good numbers there.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

New York? That surprises me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

New York is one of the few states not colored in?

[–] TheLowestStone 6 points 8 hours ago

The blue states are the ones with a lower population.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Ohio is the surprising one to me. Big state I guess.

[–] metallic_substance 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It's not true of Ohio based on a quick Google search. I think this map might be quite wrong

[–] buddascrayon 6 points 1 hour ago

Can we talk about the fact that Wyoming shouldn't even be a state based on their miniscule population.

[–] finitebanjo 3 points 26 minutes ago

You know, this would be much more accurately captioned as a map of how a president could win with as little of the popular vote as possible. Lowest possible score is 21%.