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[–] MonsterMonster 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

If Putin wants no NATO then all he has to do is get his poodle, Trump, to invade Greenland ...

"If they invade Greenland, they invade Nato," says Svane. "So that's where it stops. Article 5 would have to be triggered. And if a Nato country invades Nato then there's no Nato."

"He's saying it's legitimate for us to take this piece of land," he says. "If we take him really seriously this is a bad omen for the whole of the Western alliance."

[–] Kyrgizion 18 points 2 weeks ago

Something tells me the people of Taiwan also better be prepared for the coming 4 years. Trump is liable to just hand it over to china on a whim.

[–] WoodScientist 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It really wouldn't be the end of NATO. Greece and Turkey have had numerous spats while both NATO countries. An Article 5 resolution can be vetoed by any other NATO member. The US would assuredly do this.

A much more worrying possibility would be Denmark specifically withdrawing from or reducing cooperation with NATO. Forget Greenland, Denmark itself is in a very strategic location, considering its place in the Baltic.

[–] rockSlayer 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Article 5 also has provisions to prevent starting the same political mess of WW1

[–] gibmiser 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Stupid MAGA fucks can't have a moment of reflection and ask why the fuck do we need Greenland? Why are we starting new problems?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Arctic trade routes and newly uncovered natural resources.

[–] gibmiser 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Uh, stealing or coercing a country into becoming part of the USA for that is worth it? Fuck that how about we work out trade deals that are mutually beneficial. Unless the whole point is that MAGA wants to rob and steal like the good old colonial days...

Assholes

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah it’s a dumb idea but there is at least a kernel of an explanation.

[–] HeyJoe 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Just imagine how much that war will cost. Even if this did happen and ended up with Greenland, how long would it take before any of those things benefit at all. It's disgusting this, and any of the other things being talked about are even ideas...

[–] Maggoty 3 points 2 weeks ago

You forget, that first question is asked in a positive way in the Military Industrial Complex.

[–] NOT_RICK 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t get how you can talk about annexing a territory and then at the same time denying China’s claim in Taiwan. Either it’s off the table for everyone or it’s going to end up being open season

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

War industry and future resources is money in the capitalist pocket. Work cattle can't do shit about it.

[–] venusaur 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is crazy. A global power like US trying to take Greenland by force will most certainly trigger a world war.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 10 points 2 weeks ago

Or not, given how apathetic everyone is nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

If they do Canada will be next, surrounded on three sides.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 2 weeks ago

this saga

Very clever, BBC. Very clever.